StewartyBoy Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) Hi Guys, Was doing a bit of research on HID/Xenon Upgrade Kits. A friend had decided he wanted to upgrade, but wanted to know the legallity of them as a friend had been pulled over due to them glaring. For anyone else wondering... http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps Edited February 19, 2010 by StewartyBoy Link to comment
badbaz Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 It's illegal to speed too. And murder, and use a mobile whilst driving, and to . . . . . **** off government. Oh, that's right, you will be shortly. Only to be replaced by another bunch of useless thieving b@st@rds. Link to comment
A19SKN Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 So What.... Mine will not be coming out thats for sure they are great a vast improvement for any Owner Link to comment
W88CHY Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Next they'll be telling us it's ilegal to decat..... Link to comment
badbaz Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Next they'll be telling us it's ilegal to decat..... Eh? You're kidding! Link to comment
StewartyBoy Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 Woah!! I posted because there had been a debate before about this, I reckon your response Baz was a bit OTT and unecessary. I'm pretty sure we all know murder is illegal, but not all know the technicality on the info Ive posted. Link to comment
badbaz Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Woah!! I posted because there had been a debate before about this, I reckon your response Baz was a bit OTT and unecessary. I'm pretty sure we all know murder is illegal, but not all know the technicality on the info Ive posted. OTT? Tongue in cheek maybe, to demonstrate the ridiculous 'laws' in this country. You should know by now the messenger will always be shot on delivery of unwelcome news - thus: necessary! Link to comment
ciaranrb5 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Eh? You're kidding! Obviously he is Link to comment
badbaz Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Obviously he is Thank god, had me worried there. For almost everyone Link to comment
W88CHY Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Eh? You're kidding! Read it somewhere on Scoobynet I'm sure.... Got me worried to be honest, but I'm a rebel Link to comment
StrikE Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 I'm pretty sure we all know murder is illegal Still doesn't stop people If it was legal i would never get to work, too busy killing thick coonts that cant drive Link to comment
stum450n Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Right well from what I understand having read that three or four times to be sure, that law only affects classics with bulbs and ballasts added after the point of purchase that use the original headlight shell. Bugeyes, blobeyes hawkeyes (and hatches?) would be allowed to fit them as HID was an option on all and with the headlight shell being essenially the same, they meet the minimum criteria. Aftermarket headlights for the classics would most likely also be legal because they wouldve been made to the same manufacturing criteria. What a bloody great waste of time and taxpayers money coming up with that ****e was!!!! Link to comment
StrikE Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Think the HID are standard fit on the Hatches..............drool minions Link to comment
stum450n Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Think the HID are standard fit on the Hatches..............drool minions Thought they might have been... to be honest, they're so insignificant I haven't paid them enough attention to notice! Link to comment
mystery machine Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Think the HID are standard fit on the Hatches.............. And the Hawkeye WRXes/STIs - eat my discharge! Link to comment
mikeyb13 Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Think the HID are standard fit on the Hatches..............drool minions Dont you just love the way any thread can turn into a slagging match I might as well join in Take a lot more than fancy lights to make me buy a car that looks like a dogs turd Link to comment
scouk Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Right well from what I understand having read that three or four times to be sure, that law only affects classics with bulbs and ballasts added after the point of purchase that use the original headlight shell. Bugeyes, blobeyes hawkeyes (and hatches?) would be allowed to fit them as HID was an option on all and with the headlight shell being essenially the same, they meet the minimum criteria. Aftermarket headlights for the classics would most likely also be legal because they wouldve been made to the same manufacturing criteria. Not entirely true.. Although some of the newage headlights allow for easy install of HId's in the projector lenses it is still illegal on bugs and blobs! 2 main reasons for this.. 1) No automnatic headlight levelling (not the little switch on the dash, it needs to be completely automatic) 2) No high pressure headlight washing system.. But TBH in my view, the benefit of installing HID's into headlight units that properly support them is a massive increase in safety of the vehicle! As long they are are fitted securely and they are set-up properly not dazzling other road users on normal road conditions I don't see much of a problem generally.. Yes it's still illega, but they pass MOT's (so far) and I generally try keep them clean anyway.. Link to comment
dipsy Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 The Hid's have been standard fitment on Jdm Sti's for ages Link to comment
stum450n Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Not entirely true.. Although some of the newage headlights allow for easy install of HId's in the projector lenses it is still illegal on bugs and blobs!2 main reasons for this.. 1) No automnatic headlight levelling (not the little switch on the dash, it needs to be completely automatic) 2) No high pressure headlight washing system.. But TBH in my view, the benefit of installing HID's into headlight units that properly support them is a massive increase in safety of the vehicle! As long they are are fitted securely and they are set-up properly not dazzling other road users on normal road conditions I don't see much of a problem generally.. Yes it's still illega, but they pass MOT's (so far) and I generally try keep them clean anyway.. So there you go... you learn something every day! Link to comment
StrikE Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Think the HID are standard fit on the Hatches..............drool minions Dont you just love the way any thread can turn into a slagging match I might as well join in Not a slagging match on my part as this smiley >>>----> means tongue in cheek humour, if not then my most humble apology to original poster Take a lot more than fancy lights to make me buy a car that looks like a dogs turd I've left the fold and no longer have a Scooby Link to comment
stum450n Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 WTF??!? A slagging match? New one on me, was sure it was called banter, having a laugh, a giggle... Looks like I must've been wrong all these years. I'll take myself away into the corner and give myself 20 lashes for my ignorance! Link to comment
StewartyBoy Posted February 20, 2010 Author Share Posted February 20, 2010 Sorry for the sharp reaction Baz, I was in a pretty bad mood when I replied! I do see the funny side of things, just not when I'm being a ****. Yes its correct, no washers or self levelling and your scunnered. Glasgow's finest ordered the removal of a friends lights due to them not meeting standards. Nice eh! Link to comment
badbaz Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Sorry for the sharp reaction Baz, I was in a pretty bad mood when I replied! I do see the funny side of things, just not when I'm being a ****.Yes its correct, no washers or self levelling and your scunnered. Glasgow's finest ordered the removal of a friends lights due to them not meeting standards. Nice eh! No worries, we all have off moments. There is a case for these lights being controlled I reckon, but as was said above, if they meet the MOT standard then they won't dazzle oncoming cars, yes they are bright but Xenons ARE bright! There needs to be some sense applied by the plod on the safety vs legality thing. HIDS today, tomorrow .....? Link to comment
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