corsa Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 Much as we all can have a play or a bit of fun on the B roads. http://bilgalleri.dk/html/vid_vis.asp?VideoID=22034 bear it in mind and think. Davie
drb5 Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 Fek thats graphic, but even though i reckon they'd get a few complaints....thats what is needed. Very touching clip. Thanks for that Davie.
scouk Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 That's a damn good advert!!! The UK needs that sort of advertising... But it's not allowed because it's too offensive and graphic etc.. THAT's exactly what is needed on topics like this, drugs e.t.c Tone it down and no one pays attention, it's seen as entertainment! E.g. Drink aware ads putting comedy in WTF!!! .. Just hardcore gory images that stick in the mind! Good Find!
corsa Posted December 14, 2008 Author Posted December 14, 2008 Most of these ads are from Ireland due to the amount of "younger" drivers coming to a dreadfull end. D
jcscoob Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 Great find, just a shame this country is to freaking gay to view adds that hammer home the message like this Remember its not just yourself thats to be carefull, but you also have to look out for careless ejits, stay safe !
wrxmania Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 Straight to the point! How it should be. Save racing and taking risks for the track.
jae Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 Aye gone are the days of seeing young johnny throwing his Frisbee into the substation and getting fried retrieving it, ahhh the public service adverts from when I was a lad, kids today need that fear of death fired into them!
mikeyb13 Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 Ive had to try and put people back together after these types of incident many times through my job, so I know better than most the carnage that happens on the roads. But shock tactics dont work im afraid, how graphic do these videos have to be to bet a message across. I cant help think that normal people dont need to actually see the things ive seen to know what death means. You could show me or some poor policeman going home distraught after trying to stuff a fourteen year olds brain back in his head so start shouting at your own wife and kids then drinking a bottle of vodka too but it wouldnt matter. These videos are the work of sick ****3rs and all they achieve is to desensitize people to violence and death IMHO
W88CHY Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 Hard to watch, very graphic - serious stuff!
bigbird Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 Very good, but these videos don't work i'm afraid. Watch all those clips and the most honest and true part is that these accidents happen to everyone and anyone, not just the stereotypical " boy-racers", car thieves and mindless idiots. It can happen to me, you or anyone else on this forum- and not just at speed on a good old B road thrash either. Having dealt with well over 200 fatal road accidents, i can honestly say the majority were caused by a momentary lapse in concentration or a failure to truly appreciate the drivers own ability. And thats where people fall down- they think theyr'e invincible behind the wheel and sooner or later, something like the above will happen. As long as there's car's on the road, people will make mistakes and people will die.
corsa Posted December 14, 2008 Author Posted December 14, 2008 Ive had to try and put people back together after these types of incident many times through my job, so I know better than most the carnage that happens on the roads. But shock tactics dont work im afraid, how graphic do these videos have to be to bet a message across. I cant help think that normal people dont need to actually see the things ive seen to know what death means. You could show me or some poor policeman going home distraught after trying to stuff a fourteen year olds brain back in his head so start shouting at your own wife and kids then drinking a bottle of vodka too but it wouldnt matter. These videos are the work of sick ****3rs and all they achieve is to desensitize people to violence and death IMHO Very stange reply Mikey. If 1 person just 1 person thinks twice and could possibly have saved a life then these Wa*&ers as you so politley put it have done there job. Any more thoughts or was it just a pointless thread starter? davie.
scientific steve Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 I can see both points of view here. Another way to look at these kind of things is like this, yes they will shock you and for a while you may even slow down a bit. But How long will it take you to forget about the whole point and carry on as before?
scouk Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 i can honestly say the majority were caused by a momentary lapse in concentration or a failure to truly appreciate the drivers own ability. And thats where people fall down- they think theyr'e invincible behind the wheel and sooner or later, something like the above will happen. As long as there's car's on the road, people will make mistakes and people will die. Good point of view... Your right road accidents (or collisions or whatever the PC name is for them now) are not sterotypical.. As you rightly say it can happen to anyone at anytime.. Not just hte boy racers... You can genuinely be the best driver in teh world.. But a mometary lapse in concentration like a rear damper going clunk over a bump and becoming distracted by the noise can be a cause for an accident. The billion dollar question is why are some peoples attitude to driving so different from others.. Why are some peopel "bad" drivers and other "good" drivers.. What is missing, or what is extra in bad drivers which make them that way? And in a world of unlimited money what do you reckon could be done to change their way of driving or perhaps educate new drivers so they are good drivers from day 1? Your right the shock treatment doesn't really work.. It has an impact but not enough.. And if you ask any "boy-Racer" they know the facts and they know how to drive responsibly, yet they choose not to.. Why? I'd imagine their are a lot of younger drivers these days who know friends who have been killed on the roads.. A couple of guys I knew at school have been killed on the roads.. But that only seems to knock people back a little, before long they are back to their old ways.. Until they become involved in their own incident.. Even then, if they survive, very few change their ways.. To go off on a bit here... One thing I've noticed about newer cars (my folks just bought a 56 plate 207) and it's so vague it's silly.. You have no feeling with the car the controls are very light and give little feedback.. YES makes it easy to drive, but at the same time it gives you WAY too much confidence with the cars ability.. I'm sure it will break traction and slide but you have no idea when that could happen, and for an inexperiences driver they have no idea where the limits are and so drive however they like as they dont "feel" it getting dangerous.... Older cars are WAY safer from a driving point of view as if you tried to be a little bit silly you felt it.. Nowadays nothing... You don't know your pushing the cars ability until it's too late... IMHO
cullenmin Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 (edited) And in a world of unlimited money what do you reckon could be done to change their way of driving or perhaps educate new drivers so they are good drivers from day 1? My view is that the Driving license should have to be renewed. Every 5 years for example for EVERYBODY. There are drivers on the road that have never sat a driving test in their life. That stems back to the days when you just applied for a license and you got one. The highway code changes every year. Are drivers updated with this information....I THINK NOT. Many drivers are incompetent to drive safely on our roads and the only way to improve this is to introduce a driving test refresher. The boy racers get a bad name. In most cases I can see exactly why. The only way to solve this is education. Get safety drummed into them from a young teen age. I do think this video is very hard hitting and it brings back bad memories that I did not want, but I think it does have an affect on some drivers but not all. Rich Edited December 14, 2008 by Cullenmin
jae Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 Agree completely; and I think that all that can be said really is that there is NO stopping the accidents because we all react differently to the messages, I think that there are those who these hard hitting ads will work for but also that the more softer, shall we say more emotional ads (as the PC's on here have mentioned) where a PC or Paramedic's emotional response to the traffic incidents will work better. Perhaps if they were to alternate the type of ad we see so that the impact is paired with an emotional response. .... I dunno .... Having been in a couple of accidents, both as a passenger and as a driver and having been a witness to a fatal, I can only say that I drive today with a much greater awareness of what can happen but have found myself driving, shall we say inappropriately, and have asked myself why. There is no answer, yes there may be a "switch" and if there is it's the "not going to happen to me" one. As ScoUK has mentioned modern cars wrap you up with safety and control, but when it goes wrong ultimately the driver is to blame (to a greater or lesser degree). I have always said that if I was ever to cause an accident with a loss of life I would never drive again. The Gods forgive that it never happens.
johnnyr6 Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Ive had to try and put people back together after these types of incident many times through my job, so I know better than most the carnage that happens on the roads. But shock tactics dont work im afraid, how graphic do these videos have to be to bet a message across. I cant help think that normal people dont need to actually see the things ive seen to know what death means. You could show me or some poor policeman going home distraught after trying to stuff a fourteen year olds brain back in his head so start shouting at your own wife and kids then drinking a bottle of vodka too but it wouldnt matter. These videos are the work of sick ****3rs and all they achieve is to desensitize people to violence and death IMHO What you do Mikey? Paramedic?? Johnny
iainc Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 My view is that the Driving license should have to be renewed. Every 5 years for example for EVERYBODY.<snip> Rich Totally agree. Seen some sights on the road. Al mentioned what makes a good/bad driver. Have seen guys overtaking round bends... now I don't care WTF you are and how quick your reactions are, there is no way you can overtake safely around a blind bend. Also seen far too many people sitting waaaay too close to the car/van in front with absolutely no chance in stopping in time (esp at this time of year). A re-sit of the test would help as it would keep people "current" IYKWIM. Far too many people pass their test and never look at a highway code, etc ever again (I know I've only looked at it a couple of times since I passed and that was when mates/relations were learning to drive)... and I've "only" been driving 17-odd years.
Typer666 Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 I found the video moving... it will defintely influence how I drive.
mikeyb13 Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 What you do Mikey? Paramedic??Johnny I am a Theatre Scrub Nurse, Have done lots of Trauma, Headinjuries, Burns etc
fpan Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Tragic but true. I have posted this in a few other forums, hopefully it will make people think. As others said the question is for how long.
scouk Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Just came across this one from RoadSafety Scotland http://www.onedistraction.com/roadsafety.html
johnnyr6 Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 I am a Theatre Scrub Nurse, Have done lots of Trauma, Headinjuries, Burns etc Ah, where abouts?? I'm an odp in the good old GRI. Johnny
paul n Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 Posts deleted, no need for offensive comments
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