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Some good information in here w.r.t Jap Spec DCCD ( John Felstead) http://bbs.scoobynet.com/drivetrain-11/143...ranslation.html

What I should have said is that it allows way more grip to be transferred to the rears ( not power).........this copy n' paste from the Whiteline site explains things nicely......... On-Road Results The adjustable 22mm rear swaybar absolutely transformed the WRX's handling - this really is the biggest bang-forbuck handling mod you can make! Mid-corner is where the new 'bar makes its biggest difference. The WRX is now much more obedient during its approach to the apex of a corner - you no longer have to combat understeer and more understeer. The front-end points much closer to the steered angle and the chassis remains more neutral - especially through tight corners that would otherwise have the Rex plough understeering. From the driver's seat you can really feel the outside rear tyre being loaded and, relatively speaking, the outside front tyre is under less stress. For the first time you can hear the rear tyres yowling through a corner, not just the fronts; this is a good indication that the cornering loads are now being evenly distributed through the front and rear outside tyres. Tyre wear, as a result, will be less focussed to the shoulder of outside front tyre. The new swaybar improves turn-in, though the difference is not as tremendous as the middle stages of the corner. If you come into a corner too fast or your steering input is too rough, there is certainly less tendency for the nose to plough ahead. It will understeer in these situations, but not terminally. Given a smoother steering approach, the rear swaybar won't make a huge difference to turn-in. Corner exit is slightly improved thanks to a more accurate approach to the apex that effectively 'opens out' the exit line. Previously, it was easy to understeer wide of the apex and be forced to tighten you exit line; with the Whiteline swaybar, you can more accurately follow the optimal line. If you apply power while there is significant steering lock wound on you'll get power understeer - though it doesn't feel as pronounced as previously. And how reactive is the car to mid-corner throttle offs? Well - first - we must emphasise there's now much less requirement to lift off the throttle in order to get the front-end to tuck in. With the chassis more balanced, there are only few occasions (such as when negotiating a tight roundabout) when a slight mid-corner lift-off will be of benefit. Depending on entry speed and your steering input, a sharp throttle-off can cause a considerable oversteer action. Other than looking spectacular we're not sure if this is a great characteristic, but it shows the car now has much more balance - you're not limited to just understeer. The three different swaybar adjustments make a considerable difference to the handling attitude of the car. The softest roll setting still gives all of the abovementioned but is quite benign in its transition to lift-off oversteer. In the other extreme, the firmest setting is perhaps a bit much with otherwise stock suspension and road-spec tyres. Be aware that the tail can step out quite a long way - and very rapidly - when the car is unsettled by factors such as road camber changes or loose gravel atop of the bitumen. The firmest setting is, however, probably ideal for track use. And now we arrive at the middle setting - the setting we are currently most content with for everyday street duties. The centre swaybar hole provides much improved mid-corner attitude and its lift-of oversteer characteristic is manageable in everyday conditions - in dry weather conditions, anyhow.

ask Bing - we checked it put before we went for a quick spin later on [<)]

"I dont think your post from the dark side is true for a quick subaru however as alot of the understeer is down to the central diff set up on a car, say your wrx will understeer more readily than one with more torque to the rear wheels like a jap dccd set up like andys." True but a Whiteline adjustable ARB / solid drop links has meant that more power can be fed to the rear wheels on my car so it does not plough into the bends the way it used to. A stiffer rear end = more oversteer and less roll which means the power can be more evenly distributed. The FastOne followed me round some large roundabouts and witnessed the craziness in the wet. DCCD will only really help to a certain extent. The Stig had the WR1 understeering like a pig. Manufacturers dial in understeer as it makes for a safer drive. This is also useful info that I stumbled across :- To Reduce Understeer or Increase Oversteer Front tires: Increase tire pressure in 2.5psi increments Increase Section Width Lower the Aspect Ratio Reduce front tread depth Rear Tires: Reduce tire pressure in 2.5psi increments Reduce section width Install higher aspect ratio tires Increase rear tread depth Front Wheels: Install wider wheels Install lighter wheels Rear Wheels: Install narrower wheels Install heavier wheels Front Alignment settings: Dial in more negative camber Dial in More toe-out Dial in more positive caster Rear Alignment settings: Dial in more positive camber Dial in more toe-out (Same as front) Anti-Sway bars: Soften the Front Stiffen the Rear Spring rates: Soften the Front Stiffen the Rear Shock absorbers: Soften the Front Stiffen the Rear Suspension Bushings: Soften the Front Stiffen the Rear Brake Proportioning Reduce Front brake pressure Increase rear pressure Weight Distribution Reduce front weight Increase rear weight Aerodynamics: Increase Front Downforce Reduce rear downforce

Yeah were done @ KH - all pressures were okay, back one looked low due to the low profile [:^)]

I prefer a bit of tail happiness myself and removal of any "wash out" style understeer. Don't like a crashy ride but will lower my car on prodrive springs next year. Would love EDFC's for switching between road and track mode but i dont track my car often enough to warrant the purchase plus they cost a purdy penny. I thought the below might be useful for you fellas ? GT4 for the PS2 is a great way to learn about these sorta things Looking at the Litchfield T25 - that would be my ideal set up. Great turn in but able to swing oot the rear on demand ! ******************************************************************************************** Understeer on entry to a bend - Increase the 'rebound rate' of rear shocks. Decrease the 'bump rate' of front shocks. Increase the rear brake bias or just brake earlier! Oversteer on entry to a bend - Decrease the 'rebound rate' of rear shocks. Increase the 'bump rate' of front shocks. Decrease the rear brake bias, or brake later! Mid-bend Understeer (constant 'wash-out') - Stiffen rear spring and/or anti-roll bar. Soften the front springs and/or anti-roll bar. Mid-bend Oversteer (constant 'tightening' without driver input) - Stiffen front spring and/or anti-roll bar. Soften the rear springs and/or anti-roll bar. Exit Understeer - Increase rebound of front shocks. Decrease bump of rear shocks. Stiffen rear springs/anti-roll bar. Soften front springs/anti-roll bar. Exit Oversteer - Decrease rebound of front shocks. Increase bump of rear shocks. Soften rear springs/anti-roll bar. Stiffen front springs/anti-roll bar. Car is slow to respond to driver's input - Stiffen the car by (in this order) springs then anti-rollbars then shocks. Increase tyre pressure check heat spread. Car hops over the bump - reverse of the above. Pinched from the MLR site Cheers Cal

Sounds tremendous fella ! It's gonna have this effect ! CGS

Hey Andy - I went for silver with flitter in it............wasn't keen in it to begin with but now I love it - pretty much the same colour as these :- Here's the link i was talking about :- http://bbs.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general...?highlight=pff7 another interesting read :- http://bbs.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyres-brak...?highlight=nero Cal

Revolution sell both the copies AND the real McCoy.......Midlands also sell them Search PFF7 threads within SN and you'll see Mike Wood of Prodrives responses on the copies. Some people have had problems, other have not. They are so expensive because of the flow forming process required to make the thin spokes so strong. The copies use conventional methods and are way heavier ( not a huge issue unless you are Andy F i.e looking to shave weight everywhere on the car). Many people are happy with the copies so just go with your own budget. Just had mine powercoated and have kerbed one already. They have zero protection from the tyre lip. Cal

99% of the time I drive gently ( the odd bit of motorway and 3 mile commute) but on The Stockiemuir Road ( my favourite road ever that I drive for 20 mins or so every 4 weeks, I go into this mode... CGS [<)]

also - it looks like they have pinched the image from somewhere ! The most ironic thing is that Scientific Steve was using his car in a reponsible manner in a safe environment. They ought to have put a Kirkcaldy chav driving up and down this esplanade in there instead [:@]

bump for the blind Wuz !

lol at the farting comment ! the beast in question ........... Cal ( green wi' envy at all you big bhp tarts !)

"Nice whiplash" - we could Jools's son get his neck wrenched backwards when he changed gear ! This was accompanied by muchos popping and farting !

ANOTHER VIDEO :- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=48...86704&hl=en Enjoy Cal

Tremendous complilation squire...........cool soundtrack too Uploading mine just now............gonna wash my whip in the meantime CGS

I am working on a smaller clip too...............25 mb joab............will upload to Google Video CGS

Downloadin now....................good effort my son ! Cheers Cal

this will whet your appetites whilkst you wait http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-PGsUUzmQ0...ated&search= Andy - yeah those two Golfs were nuts - VERY fast with great handling set ups ! CGS

Grunt is working his PC right now and has a 25 min clip so far..........it's taking so long as he's having a hand party at the Keiichi Tsuchiya style drift footage Good to meet you again Grant ( RS Grant) Cheers cal

A Squirrel Vision / CalCam collaboration is currently being manufactured as we speak. Just discussing copyrights and rating. [<)] Cal

I have just sent Grant 8 MPEGS for processing Cheers CGS

Folks, I haven't donated anything yet but did put £10 into the SIDC fund today via the pax laps....keep up the good work CGS

I have MUCHOS footage of this weapon...........it's ability to drift on any corner is uncanny. Dale popped his track day cherry too and was at a fine pace by the end of the day......A braw day oot altogether. Will put footage up later Cheers Cal

I should be there for 0630 hrs............if I am not proceed without me [:0] Cal