Newage To A Classic

[sti_steve]

Now that I'm "scoobieless" with the sale of my blob today I'm looking at getting a classic that I can use on the track. It will by no means be a dedicated track car as I will use the car at weekends etc so will be still driven on the queens highways. In my mind just now I'm looking for a Type R to do the job.

Has anyone made the jump from Newage to Classic and what where your experiences and opinions on the differences? I know there are a few members that have both and would just like to know if you think a Type R for the wieght saving/looks/price would be the best way to go for a fast road/track set up?

Any input welcomed

[terzo neil]

i like the newage for motorways and general driving

but prefer the classic for the back roads and general being a hooligan in it

[bobbyc]

It's a fight every day first out grabs the RA, still makes me grin every day & in this weather it leaves more modern cars for dead just can't get it from the wife "the car that is "

No ABS to get confused just fun, if you think back 15 years to when it first came out it makes you realise what an awsome peice of kit it must have been & is still quicker than most cars today. Go for it & enjoy.

I must admit as Neil say's i like the GB on the more open roads like the highland run etc

[gus the bus]

Made the move from a newage to a classic (well one of them ) in 2006 and have never looked back. IMHO the classic is a far better handling car and driving car overall but would agree the newage is better on a distant run/drive

Type R or RA is deffo the way to go

[sti_steve]

Seems pretty conclusive about what car is providing the fun...I enjoyed my newage emmencly so can't wait for a classic!

[StrikE]

Or you could go for a Hatch & have the best of both worlds

[wrxmania]

Now that I'm "scoobieless" with the sale of my blob today I'm looking at getting a classic that I can use on the track. It will by no means be a dedicated track car as I will use the car at weekends etc so will be still driven on the queens highways. In my mind just now I'm looking for a Type R to do the job.

Has anyone made the jump from Newage to Classic and what where your experiences and opinions on the differences? I know there are a few members that have both and would just like to know if you think a Type R for the wieght saving/looks/price would be the best way to go for a fast road/track set up?

Any input welcomed

I made the jump from a 2003 WRX, which I had for 3 years, to an STI Version 1 (no.21). I enjoyed the switch, it was rawer and different but not any more or less enjoyable the WRX. Now moved onto a new STI Hatch, which hopefully will be the best of both - and much easier to use as an every day car but still stupid quick!

You can only really regret something you never do - everything else only has the potential to be a fixable mistake. Go for it.

Brian

[paul555sti]

The only difference between the two is about 20k though ( hatch and classic )

I moved from a newage to a classic sti and has been mentioned before the newage car i found to be more of an everyday car. The classic i only use on days off and weekends . If you are planning on using it as a track car then its a no brainer.

Edited January 9, 2010 by paul555sti

[sti_steve]

....*is away to find a well looked after Type R

Thanks for the replys guys. Just what I was looking for

[Jon B]

me personally... i prefer the classics...they carry the original definition of a scoobie....most modern cars just don't look as sporty...

[justy22]

I Bought a brand new MY03, was written off 4 yrs later, i now have a silver MY99 and can honestly say the Classic is a much better all round car better looks better handling and much lighter than a newage, the newage does have a more modern feel to it but comes at a price of extra weight

[braveheart]

Newage = long distance driving = comfort

Classic = rawer=-Fun=power=handeling=lighter=looks=originalty=smile=

trying not to be biast ha ha ..

[mystery machine]

Something that's not often mentioned in the "classic vs newage" debate, and perhaps worth considering if you're driving on public roads (esp with passengers who are also family members), is crash performance.

It isn't always easy to obtain objective data in this area, but the Australian 'USCR' ratings are interesting because their assessment is based on the outcome of real-life crashes:

"Used Car Safety Ratings (UCSR) help you identify safer second hand cars.

The ratings illustrate the likelihood of a driver being killed or seriously injured once a crash has occurred. The car's handling, drivability, distance driven and the driver's behaviour have no influence on the results presented.

The latest UCSR are based on statistics collected from car crashes in Australia and New Zealand between 1987 and 2005, where someone was killed or seriously injured. Over two million police reported crashes are analysed in the latest UCSR."

Impreza 1993-2000: 2/5 stars

Impreza 2001-2007: 4/5 stars

I'm not suggesting that this should be the last word when choosing a vehicle (who would ever ride a motorbike if it was ), but it is an interesting consideration to make when comparing these two similar (in the big scheme of things) cars

Edited January 12, 2010 by Mystery Machine

[Wee Jock]

....*is away to find a well looked after Type R

Thanks for the replys guys. Just what I was looking for

Have a look here: http://www.svaimports.com/cars.php?make=Subaru

As you have seen on the "whats your best car thread", I went from a Classic WRX to a Hawkeye STi and Ive got to say its the Classic every day of the week.

Good luck

[StewartyBoy]

Something that's not often mentioned in the "classic vs newage" debate, and perhaps worth considering if you're driving on public roads (esp with passengers who are also family members), is crash performance.

It isn't always easy to obtain objective data in this area, but the Australian 'USCR' ratings are interesting because their assessment is based on the outcome of real-life crashes:

"Used Car Safety Ratings (UCSR) help you identify safer second hand cars.

The ratings illustrate the likelihood of a driver being killed or seriously injured once a crash has occurred. The car's handling, drivability, distance driven and the driver's behaviour have no influence on the results presented.

The latest UCSR are based on statistics collected from car crashes in Australia and New Zealand between 1987 and 2005, where someone was killed or seriously injured. Over two million police reported crashes are analysed in the latest UCSR."

Impreza 1993-2000: 2/5 stars

Impreza 2001-2007: 4/5 stars

I'm not suggesting that this should be the last word when choosing a vehicle (who would ever ride a motorbike if it was ), but it is an interesting consideration to make when comparing these two similar (in the big scheme of things) cars

I've never owned a Newage, but when working in the car trade ive driven a hell of a lot and it does'nt feel anywhere near as "raw" as a classic. I'm not far off making a jump into a Newage but it's taken me a long time to make the decision to, as I really dont want to feel disappointed in the sense that they do feel a lot heavier and less fun.

As for crash perfromanc. All crash scenarios are completely different, but I can vouch for the classic. If you "plan" on crashing doing a tad over the limit than you should be, then take it from me, they look after you pretty well.

[colin_ross]

Impreza 1993-2000: 2/5 stars

Impreza 2001-2007: 4/5 stars

Of course when you factor in the fact the the classics are normally doing double the speed of the newages that statistic make much more sense.

That said if I was going to have a crash I wouldn't want to do it in a classic. Far better to ruin a newage.

[StewartyBoy]

Of course when you factor in the fact the the classics are normally doing double the speed of the newages that statistic make much more sense.

That said if I was going to have a crash I wouldn't want to do it in a classic. Far better to ruin a newage.

[sti_steve]

Thanks for all the replies. All positive answers regarding the classic in terms of fun and rawness apart from MM review on crashes

Looks like when I find the right car it sound be a blast....

Happy hunting

[euan_r]

ive rolled a classic with quite a few revolutions down a hill and walked away without even a scratch, they are built solidly despite the low weight. am sure some of the modern test are more for pedestrians saftey if you hit them.

theres quite a few others on here that have had similar experience and hence why they went straight out and bought another classic.

[cullenmin]

Impreza 1993-2000: 2/5 stars

Impreza 2001-2007: 4/5 stars

Wonder how that changes when a roll cage and harnesses are added to the classic.

Rich

[john_mchutchison]

Im not going to argue against the Austaralian crash stats, but my brother was driving a Richard Burns limited edition, had a head on collision with a car prob doing about 80mph. I swear to you everyone who saw that car thought the driver was dead, hell it even spread round the village we lived in he was dead, but all he suffered was seatbelt burns/bruises and the other driver a broken foot. From what i saw the classic seems a pretty safe car to be in and i drive a new age.

On the debate over classic/newage my opinion from driving some classics was "shed" and i mean no disrespect to the car, it was just noisy, harsh, rattly, jerky everything my newage isnt. Would like to drive another classic again after ive driven my newage for another comparison. maybe im just getting old.

[sti_steve]

I don't want to get into a classic v newage debate because what's the point in that? My dads bigger than your dad etc. I was just looking for an insight to see how people felt about going to a classic after they have had a newage. The results seem very positive

[scooby222]

ive had my 05 sti from new,tinkered with most bits on it,love it to bits and its without doubt the most capable car ive had - however i still miss my classics and when funds allow there will be a type r or p1 next to the sti

[mystery machine]

I don't want to get into a classic v newage debate because what's the point in that? My dads bigger than your dad etc.

You're quite right, Steve - it's not a debate I'd get into either - just passing on some objective info. You pays your money, you takes yer choice

Good luck with whatever you end up with going for, looking forward to hearing about it and seeing some Stevie Nicks

[paul555sti]

Steve!!!!!

http://bbs.scoobynet.com/private-sale-gene...-346-343-a.html

Cant see this one taking long to sell.