j-k

This weeks program is just about to start!!!

1. Primrose yellow/blue writing 2. White/ blue writing 3. Red / White writing 4. Mica Blue / White writing 5. Charcoal Grey/ Orange writing 6. Black / silver writing 7.Green / ??? writing

Tony, put a link to this thread in the new t shirt post, so people will know whats going on.... Not everyone reads all of the posts..lol jon

Okay by me , but strictly CHOICES ONLY...no chit chat. Are you gonna start the thread tony?

Been done by Essex Scooby crew already mate....

Tony, I dont think that will be enough time to get all of the combos in.... Not everyone will have been reading this today and so will complain about the short notice. I think we need to give it a few days...maybe to the end of the week. Alot of people browse the forum from work pc's , so they need to be given their say also. We should ALL have a chat at the meet on friday and thrash out some colour combos...then at the weekend ,maybe (only maybe) we can start a new vote... jon

Left a message with VBH , but not sure if she will turn up....you will have to come along to find out???

Can we start a new thread then.....and make it a sticky for a week? And how about we lock the poll and put a link to this thread? If everyone is in agreement with that? jon

the voting should conclude a final answer to the t shirt colour... At the end of the day, it will be a fair and democratic vote, so people who dont agree with the choice of the majority wont have to buy the shirt if they so desire... The last thing we want is a colour nobody really likes and only a handful of members wearing them.... jon

Well done Tony....thats exactly what i said on the original thread...THIS IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD!! Choices agreed on the forum and then a voting system 1st and 2nd choice for each person. The majority will then win and everyone who voted will have had their chance. jon

My point is Ian, that pele stated she had sent out 175 e mails to MEMBERS. There cannot possibly be that amount of Current ACTIVE members within the club. So anyone wishing to vote thats on the email list could do so.....having an effect on the final decision. That is why i said if the vote is public, ie on the forum, it can be checked by the members themselves, hence making this a democratic voting system. jon

your dead right matey...its a club for the members...and decisions should be made by the members... It should all be out in the open for discussion on ALL topics... jon

This has already been discussed....Its because we dont want to look the same as all of the other clubs...

So out of these 175 people, who are actual REGULAR members. I dont want someone who maybe comes to a meet once a year choosing a club colour for us to wear.If they are only occasional members then they more than likely wouldnt have a t shirt anyway. I would think that a fair amount of those people have sold up and moved on, or if not , just are not bothered with the subaru scene! No one has even mentioned it being "FIXED". That is not possible with the way the poll is set up(ie multiple voting etc). My point was that it is "flawed".... meaning its not a true representation of the actual vote of KS members! This is a club for the members , run by the members, and shouldnt be your decision alone pele.We live in a democratic society .....majority rules... If you look at the forums, lots of other sidc members "pop in" now and again and post on our boards,as we do on theirs also. Personally, i think YOU are insulting the members by going to fox's on your own and sorting the colour with them. As dean has already posted, colour CHOICES should have been made by the members and THEN offered to fox's for a decision. Fox's want us to be wearing a club shirt with their name on it, which is fine . At least let us choose the colour first democratically. Opinions is what we need on this issue, and lots of them...if the outcome is going to be fair and acceptable to the majority (because you will not please everyone). Jon

Thats my point exactly....have they voted? if they are not active on the forums , then how have they managed to vote? The vote should be made public on here, so that numbers can be verified by ALL members, not just one. Putting the vote to Pele(or anyone else in particular for that matter) is no different to what we are doing now! One of my original posts suggested that we should democratically decide a collection of options and then take a vote. Each person getting a first and second choice, that way the majority vote will win.chances are that if your first choice colour isnt picked the second choice will be. The last thing we want is for a colour to be picked and a fair chunk of the members not wanting to wear it. It will defeat the whole object of a CLUB shirt. jon

You dont have to officially join, just be part of OUR meets/Forum. The point i am making is that people from outside of KS COULD have been voting, just by visiting the forum from SIDC main site? The moderators dont even know WHO has voted , the software just counts up the votes, giving each member 1 vote . If we charged membership , we would open a whole other can of worms... All i am asking is, iof you have voted please post on this thread saying so. That way we can decide if the poll is flawed? jon

I have good reason to believe that the T shirt Poll is flawed!!! Currently there have been 37 votes to decide a club colour scheme. I do not beleive that 37 members from KS have voted. I believe that there have been votes from other members within the SIDC. Now i have no actual proof of this, but from looking at the activity of the KS members on the forum for the last few days, it is quite apparent that 37 different KS members have NOT been on line...So where have the votes come from??? Your opinions would be appreciated KS members... If the vote turns out to be true, i will gladly go with the flow as to the choice of colour.... I am going to start a list of those who are happy to admit they voted... Ian, can you please put a link to this post on the actual POLL thread(if you are also in agreement with this) JON

1.J-K 2.Pele 3.Granby 4.Hol 5.T123VOR 6.Mickyw 7.Scuzz 8. Padtwo Keep em coming people.....

Sunday Afternoon?????

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Me included!!!!![]

You beat me to it Ian....

Dont think simon does ecutek mapping tho.... so he will not be able to do any newage stuff.... jon

1.J-K 2.Pele 3.Granby 4.Hol 5.T123VOR 6.Mickyw 7.Scuzz Keep em coming people.....

GTB Limited (mark) would be the man you need......Bit of a wizz on car electrical stuff i beleive... Jon