scoob fae ork Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 As above really. its my old mans 08 STI its needing its re-map so it wont blow up would any of you guys trust them to do the work ? Donald
Gee Wr1 Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 NO WAY was not impressed with them when i asked about servicing let alone remap a car, thats why i still use Dicksons. Think it was Scooby222 that said they said to him "why did you put that silly exhaust on your car?" it was a ppp system & they didn't have a clue
scoob fae ork Posted July 6, 2009 Author Posted July 6, 2009 Hmm not sounding good for them where is the closest place to Orkney that would do it safely ?
Gee Wr1 Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 Take it your needing it mapped for lower occtane fuel? Somewhere that does Ecutek like AndyF, not sure if Wallace Perf in Aberdeen do it. Wouldn't think Aird motors would be able to do it anyway.
scouk Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 Take it your needing it mapped for lower occtane fuel? Somewhere that does Ecutek like AndyF, not sure if Wallace Perf in Aberdeen do it.Wouldn't think Aird motors would be able to do it anyway. I wasn't aware that Aird motors were able to do such things.. If they are, I probably wouldn't go for them as I'd want to hear lots of good feedback about it first.. As Gee suggests, AndyF is you man.. But it's is a fair trek.. Next closest would probably be Wallace Performance in Aberdeen.. Admittedly I think their experience is more focussed to Evo's but they have done quite a lot of Scoobs as well. Few folk on here use them for remaps with good results.. They use EcuTek on a rolling road so should be safe enough..
bobbyc Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 I may be wrong but does this recall upgrade map not have to be done by a main dealership to keep the warranty valid, there are pleanty of people out there capable of re-mapping but as there has been issues with the new STI's pistons going it might be wise to stick with the dealership and your three year warranty just to be on the safe side.
mystery machine Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 I may be wrong but does this recall upgrade map not have to be done by a main dealership to keep the warranty valid, there are pleanty of people out there capable of re-mapping but as there has been issues with the new STI's pistons going it might be wise to stick with the dealership and your three year warranty just to be on the safe side.
scouk Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 Ahh crap! forgot about the recall... If that's the remap your referring to then yeah any dealer should do.. (Even Aird ) One of two things will happen, either they will swap out the ecu with the new one, or load on the off the shelf map to the ECU (Not sure how they actually go about it).. Surely they can't balls that up.. and worst case scenario it's their responsibility...
Gee Wr1 Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 Ah ok i didn't know there was a recall for remap on the new sti's therefore yeah better to stick to a dealership. Pistons will be going as the hatch sti's have cast pistons previous sti's had forged pistons. Call Dicksons to see will they do it, always had 1st class service from them & they're still official service agents.
zeolite Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 I hear a lot of negative stuff from a very few people about Aird. I can say that I have had excellent service from them and they have been servicing Scoobs for a very long time. Frankly if I lived closer they would be doing all my work. Any probs just talk to the manager Davie.
gordi82 Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) Contact Steve Wares @ John weirs. He is our warranty man. Think its classed as a su19. Not heard to many bad things about Aird. Gordon @ weirs (in sales) 01738 477710 Edited July 6, 2009 by gordi82
scooby222 Posted July 6, 2009 Posted July 6, 2009 i used them with my classics and they were great,however the last time i used them with my sti i was not at all impressed and i know scoobygirl had problems with them about the same time. however this was 3 years ago when they were unfranchised so things/staff may well have improved.
Frank_STI Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 I may be wrong but does this recall upgrade map not have to be done by a main dealership to keep the warranty valid, there are pleanty of people out there capable of re-mapping but as there has been issues with the new STI's pistons going it might be wise to stick with the dealership and your three year warranty just to be on the safe side. new STI pistons are not upgraded from the WRX so are tending to melt with extra power
scoob fae ork Posted July 7, 2009 Author Posted July 7, 2009 Ahh crap! forgot about the recall...If that's the remap your referring to then yeah any dealer should do.. (Even Aird ) One of two things will happen, either they will swap out the ecu with the new one, or load on the off the shelf map to the ECU (Not sure how they actually go about it).. Surely they can't balls that up.. and worst case scenario it's their responsibility... So there nothing really a proper mechanic could do wrong ? . I think its a new down load they do. When i phoned them they knew all about the problem but i heard after they were having to phone for advice on how to do the work thats the bit that puts me off
westtra Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 t&C in aberdeen would be able to do the recall. And Kev the mech there is very good at what he does.
scouk Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 What's the story with T&C in Aberdeen these days? Are they still a "official" subaru parts/servicing station?
westtra Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 yes, official subaru so warrenty etc is all good, can source cars but arn't a main selling dealer.
mystery machine Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 new STI pistons are not upgraded from the WRX so are tending to melt with extra power You're correct in that the pistons in the 2.5L engines are not upgraded from the WRX, but the reason they melt is not simply because of higher power output (not too many horror stories from Hawkeye STI or RB320 owners after all*), it's because some of the hatches' ECU maps don't protect properly against detonation.True that stronger pistons might hold up better under the above circumstances, but the bad ECU map seems to be the root cause. * As a hawkeye STI owner... here's hoping!
zeolite Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 So there nothing really a proper mechanic could do wrong ? . I think its a new down load they do. When i phoned them they knew all about the problem but i heard after they were having to phone for advice on how to do the work thats the bit that puts me off I don't get your problem here. If I have a job to do I check back to the source to check nothing has changed. The point is, they have been checking the details which I think shows the correct attitude. This assumes your info is correct.
FK1 Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Contact Steve Wares @ John weirs. He is our warranty man. Think its classed as a su19. Not heard to many bad things about Aird.Gordon @ weirs (in sales) 01738 477710 Its never been the same since Jim,Russell and Brenda left! Bry
westtra Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 You're correct in that the pistons in the 2.5L engines are not upgraded from the WRX, but the reason they melt is not simply because of higher power output (not too many horror stories from Hawkeye STI or RB320 owners after all*), it's because some of the hatches' ECU maps don't protect properly against detonation.True that stronger pistons might hold up better under the above circumstances, but the bad ECU map seems to be the root cause. * As a hawkeye STI owner... here's hoping! it's only the hatch engine thats not got uprated pistons, i'm sure the hawkeye's have uprated. Unless i've missunderstood a few threads that i have read about the new hatch
bigal024 Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 Is the general concensus that It wise to avoid these guys? My car is due its 2nd (20k) Service pretty soon, and really want a main dealer stamp in the book.
Gee Wr1 Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 Al i'm sure they're ok but just i wasn't impressed with them with our dealings. I was gonna give them a chance when they got the dealership back but.... It took me 3 days of ringing them to try & get a quote for how much it would be for the bigger 30k service, everytime i was told i'll get someone to call you back shortly & still never got a proper answer. 1 call to Dicksons & got price within 1 minute. When Jacqui bought the wagon as a run about she put it in for a oil change & general service usually around £100-120 & asked them to look at a couple of things. When she went to pick it up she got asked for £700! Ok she needed a new radiator but that was around £130 + fitting that was the only thing they called & asked for the ok to do, So expecting a final bill of just over £300. They did a load of other things that were not ok'd to do & never did the things that were asked to be looked at. She argued with them & they dropped bill to £600 still way over & above what was expected or what she was told. She paid it grudgingly & put it down to experience & we've never been back & won't be in the future! Where as my dealings with Dicksons has always been happy & efficient & i've never not been happy with the service recieved. I bought 2 cars from them & always had my servicing done there. I always get a courtesy car from them & phone calls to keep me informed while car is in & if anything needs done to it. Proper customer care Give them a shout
mystery machine Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 it's only the hatch engine thats not got uprated pistons, i'm sure the hawkeye's have uprated. Unless i've missunderstood a few threads that i have read about the new hatchInteresting. I can only say that everything I've ever read about the 2.5 suggested that they all come with the same cast pistons, WRX or STI, saloon or hatch...Don't get me wrong, as a Hawkeye STI owner I'll be most gladified if you turn out to be correct!
mystery machine Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 (edited) P.S. Certainly the 2.5 engines have a forged crank and forged conrods over the WRX's cast items. Edited July 8, 2009 by Mystery Machine
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