paulc555 Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 (edited) Alright buddies..... About to embark over the weekend on my second mechanical task after succesfully completing a spark plug change a few months back..... considering I completely fried my front discs at Knockhill during the recent SIDC track day....(lots of fun doing so I add...no regrets from me)....I purchased a new set and pads from Scoobybits.... So is this another job a numpty like me can handle....any special tools needed apart from socket set, mallet, and some copper grease.....oh and that special thing I dont have...patience..... any advice....I take it the caliper comes of easy enough....disc of...new ones on...pads in..job done..sounds easy....IS IT???? Paul Edited March 30, 2008 by PaulC555
emoe Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 (edited) Should have no problems at all. Edited to say, just do one side at a time, clamp the hose just before the caliper (as close as poss to the caliper itself) and undo the bleed nipple to push the pistons back, i have known the ABS light to get upset if you dont. Then change the discs, and put the new pads in, reattach the caliper, make sure the bleed nipple is tight and go pump the brakes. If all ok, go round and do the other side Hope this helps! Edited March 28, 2008 by emoe
paulc555 Posted March 28, 2008 Author Posted March 28, 2008 thanks for the advice mate....its an Type RA so no ABS to worry about... I didnt know about clamping the line before the caliper...is this just to let me retract the pistons.... can you clamp stainless lines???? thanks Paul
emoe Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 thanks for the advice mate....its an Type RA so no ABS to worry about...I didnt know about clamping the line before the caliper...is this just to let me retract the pistons.... can you clamp stainless lines???? thanks Paul Nope you have an RA so no ABS. dont need to worry about clamping. thats only if theres abs (i know guys who havent clamped with ABS and its been ok and i know one or two that had problems) SO: undo the master cyclinder cap under the bonnet, wrap loads of rags and tissue round it so that any spillage doesnt leak down the engine bay (keep an eye on it as you work) then while the calipers are still attached use a blunt instument to ease the old pads back with the pistons (trust me its easier like this) Then remove the caliper, change the disc (you will have to remove the hanger for the caliper too, i think its 19mm the two bolts) then refit new pads and attach the caliper. No bleeding necessary. Go pump the brake till its working again and go do the other side.
paulc555 Posted March 28, 2008 Author Posted March 28, 2008 thanks for the advice..appreciate it..... you make it sound so easy....look out for me on Casulaty tomorrow evening...or if its really bad...I'll be on The Bill....... thanks again mate Paul
emoe Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 thanks for the advice..appreciate it.....you make it sound so easy....look out for me on Casulaty tomorrow evening...or if its really bad...I'll be on The Bill....... thanks again mate Paul Really mate!!! take your time you should be done in an hour. It really isnt a bad job, especially with the type of brakes you have. Make sure you use plenty of WD or break-free and buy a can of brake cleaner, make sure the new discs are REALLY clean as the crap they put on them to stop them rusting will get in the new pads and they will feel like **** for a week!!! Good luck!
paulc555 Posted March 28, 2008 Author Posted March 28, 2008 Can I clean the face of the disc with brake cleaner...?????
emoe Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Can I clean the face of the disc with brake cleaner...????? Yes thats what you should use. Spay it on the disc BOTH SIDES REMEMBER!!! and wipe off with a clean cloth. You can also use it to clean up the copper grease you put on the back of the pads. My MSN is hanger3@hotmail.co.uk if you need more help and im not on the site
paulc555 Posted March 28, 2008 Author Posted March 28, 2008 TOP MAN....thanks very much mate.... Paul
martin_allen Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Let us know how you get on Paul. Need to do new discs and pads on mine too (although looking like getting a full set of refurbed calipers ala Kit and you sound pretty similar to me on the patience front! 5t.
turbo2000wagon Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 What are the issues with pushing the pistons in (on an abs car) without slackening the bleed nipples? I've always done it this way without any problems.
thewelsho Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 TOP MAN....thanks very much mate....Paul Brave man! Fitting your own stopping devices - now that takes balls. Perhaps not in technical fitting terms, but if that goes wrong when your flat out on the track or caning it on the roads.... I think you should take step by step pictures with little descriptions of every step, you know the kind of thing I mean? The sort of thing you see in car manuals Go one, help us all out! Good luck!
euan_r Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 i would purchase a bottle of brake fluid and a one man bleeding pipe before starting, incase you do end up with air in system. bleeding pipe is just a pipe with one way valve at end makes bleeding very easy. just take your time and everything will be fine. always best doing as much yourself as possible then you know its done right imho.
paulc555 Posted March 28, 2008 Author Posted March 28, 2008 yur a laugh mate...I've no idea what I'm doing why would I want to take photos of it....to show the rest of you how not to do it.....remember this is for my track car...it doesnt get used on the road on a daily basis...so If I get uncomfortable with anything...its wheels on and back into the garage...anyway I've got my mobile mechanic / advice line at the end of the phone in Hypertech....mon Duncan..... Paul
johnnyr6 Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Also clean up the hub face before fitting the new discs and jobs a good un. Johnny
superstar_tradesman Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 no need to clamp any hoses, just undo the brake fluid resevoir cap to push the pistons back. if you need a hand paul give me a shout i'm free on sunday.
paulc555 Posted March 28, 2008 Author Posted March 28, 2008 no need to clamp any hoses, just undo the brake fluid resevoir cap to push the pistons back. if you need a hand paul give me a shout i'm free on sunday. will do mate.... thanks
zeolite Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 A G-clamp is a handy device for pushing the pistons back if you don't take the nipples off. Will also need a bolt with a thread that screws into the hole in the disc to push it off the hub as they can get stuck on the hub if overheated or neglected. Think it is a M6 IIRC. If the disk is stuck screw the bolt in a bit then bang it wityh the mallet or lever it with a pry bar or big screwdriver. Take your time.
paulc555 Posted March 30, 2008 Author Posted March 30, 2008 yee haaaa got them on...... wasnt as bad a job as I thought.....thanks to Tam for providing the muscle on one side as I couldnt get the caliper of....but everything else went really smoothly....so pleased with myself...another mechanical task complete......some pics below of the new discs.....think they look good.........???? thanks for all the advice from everyone....
gus the bus Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 well done Paul.whats next? lol He can come n do my rear discs, pads and calipers Well done Paul, its easy when you know how eh!
kai888 Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Wish I had the balls and the knowledge to do it I took mine too the main dealer cost a fortune for the parts, labour wasn't that bad though.
paulc555 Posted March 30, 2008 Author Posted March 30, 2008 thanks for the comments.... kai888 - seriously though as Gus or anyone else will vouch I am a complete mechanical novice...I just took advice from folk on here...took my time.....double checked everything and it all worked out okay....suppose there wasnt as much pressure on me as it isnt on my everyday road car....so could afford for it to go wrong and just stick it back in the garage.... but all in all very satisfying to be able to do pads and discs......done the plugs also, just need to do an oil change now and I can give both Jo's wagon and my track car a basic service..... Paul
gus the bus Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 (edited) thanks for the comments....kai888 - seriously though as Gus or anyone else will vouch I am a complete mechanical novice...I just took advice from folk on here...took my time.....double checked everything and it all worked out okay....suppose there wasnt as much pressure on me as it isnt on my everyday road car....so could afford for it to go wrong and just stick it back in the garage.... but all in all very satisfying to be able to do pads and discs......done the plugs also, just need to do an oil change now and I can give both Jo's wagon and my track car a basic service..... Paul Paul, An oil change, gearbox oil change and or diff oil change are easier than the job you have just done so, I'm sure you are more than capable of doing them all Edited March 30, 2008 by Gus the Bus
paulc555 Posted March 30, 2008 Author Posted March 30, 2008 I hope so Gus......the RA could do with an oil change..so that will be the next task..... Paul
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