duncan_mccormick Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 Thinking about up grading all of the above, that being the drop links, anti roll bar & anti lift kit on my2006 sti. Anyone done this, is it worth the money and how much a difference does it make?? Running prodrive springs at moment. Duncan
st3ph3n Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 I have droplinks on mine and they were very good. AFAIK the STI comes with solid links so might not need them. Someone can maybe answer. ARB and ALK are supposed to be very good mods too. Make sure you get a good geometery setup too or they'll all go to waste.
~ ~ Cal ~~ Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 A timely post - I am on the sniff for some rear drop links and rear sway bar (ARB). Demon Tweaks are doing a discount just know. The rear ARB seems to be the wayforward in terms of minimising understeer This is a good link for info http://www.whiteline.com.au/default.asp?page=/reviews03.htm Group Buy link here http://bbs.scoobynet.com/demon-tweeks-whiteline-t521193.html Cheers Cal ( now with Keith Michaels and upping the modding game [])
colin_ross Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 Cal ( now with Keith Michaels and upping the modding game []) We demand details!
~ ~ Cal ~~ Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 Cal ( now with Keith Michaels and upping the modding game []) We demand details! Nae need to get excitit' [] - I have custard pie'd Privilege and Mr Moulson has allowed me to alleviate my demons. Power is sorted for now so suspension needs sorted. Then I'll be looking at power again [H] Back on topic [:$]
steven_williams Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 I believe the rear drop links are plastic which will flex replacind with metal ones will be an improvement. The front droplinks are double balljoints I replaced the ones on my bugeye with solid droplinks and there was a slight increase in road noise (thats why there is a volume button on the stereo). ALK is a good idea I also fitted powerflex front lower arm bushes just after fitting the ALK. Reading threads on here what seems to be the way to do it is change the rear for an adjustable and play with that before changiong the front if required. Unfortunatly had not seen that before I got front and rear ARB, ALK and a few bushes from AWD Motorsport open day earlier this year. All I've got to do is work out how to refit the lower strut brace. Enjoy steve
BJM Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 Hi, I know of a good place to get whiteline stuff. Don't want to mention them by name on the forum, i don't know if it's allowed. email / pm me if you'd like to know
wrxmania Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 Mention away - it is not advertising listing good service.
~ ~ Cal ~~ Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 Now received my alloy drop links and adjustable ARB ...............so my question to the panel is as follows :- Do i go for the most extreme setting ( i.e most oversteer inducing) or is the middle setting the best ? I just researched this and found the below useful but wondered if anyone in here could their opinion. Wuz is fitting these on Sunday afternoon so I need to make a decision ! On-Road Results The adjustable 22mm rear swaybar absolutely transformed the WRX's handling - this really is the biggest bang-forbuck handling mod you can make! Mid-corner is where the new 'bar makes its biggest difference. The WRX is now much more obedient during its approach to the apex of a corner - you no longer have to combat understeer and more understeer. The front-end points much closer to the steered angle and the chassis remains more neutral - especially through tight corners that would otherwise have the Rex plough understeering. From the driver's seat you can really feel the outside rear tyre being loaded and, relatively speaking, the outside front tyre is under less stress. For the first time you can hear the rear tyres yowling through a corner, not just the fronts; this is a good indication that the cornering loads are now being evenly distributed through the front and rear outside tyres. Tyre wear, as a result, will be less focussed to the shoulder of outside front tyre. The new swaybar improves turn-in, though the difference is not as tremendous as the middle stages of the corner. If you come into a corner too fast or your steering input is too rough, there is certainly less tendency for the nose to plough ahead. It will understeer in these situations, but not terminally. Given a smoother steering approach, the rear swaybar won't make a huge difference to turn-in. Corner exit is slightly improved thanks to a more accurate approach to the apex that effectively 'opens out' the exit line. Previously, it was easy to understeer wide of the apex and be forced to tighten you exit line; with the Whiteline swaybar, you can more accurately follow the optimal line. If you apply power while there is significant steering lock wound on you'll get power understeer - though it doesn't feel as pronounced as previously. And how reactive is the car to mid-corner throttle offs? Well - first - we must emphasise there's now much less requirement to lift off the throttle in order to get the front-end to tuck in. With the chassis more balanced, there are only few occasions (such as when negotiating a tight roundabout) when a slight mid-corner lift-off will be of benefit. Depending on entry speed and your steering input, a sharp throttle-off can cause a considerable oversteer action. Other than looking spectacular we're not sure if this is a great characteristic, but it shows the car now has much more balance - you're not limited to just understeer. The three different swaybar adjustments make a considerable difference to the handling attitude of the car. The softest roll setting still gives all of the abovementioned but is quite benign in its transition to lift-off oversteer. In the other extreme, the firmest setting is perhaps a bit much with otherwise stock suspension and road-spec tyres. Be aware that the tail can step out quite a long way - and very rapidly - when the car is unsettled by factors such as road camber changes or loose gravel atop of the bitumen. The firmest setting is, however, probably ideal for track use. And now we arrive at the middle setting - the setting we are currently most content with for everyday street duties. The centre swaybar hole provides much improved mid-corner attitude and its lift-of oversteer characteristic is manageable in everyday conditions - in dry weather conditions, anyhow. Given the adjustability of the rear swaybar, you may kind it necessary to revise the rear tyre pressures that were deemed optimal with the standard suspension set-up. We were quite happy maintaining our 32 psi rear inflation pressure, however. Note that we'll give you a long-term update on our suspension upgrades further down the track. This will include handling characteristics in wet weather conditions, whether or not the bushes started squeaking, tyre wear and more. After about 1000 kilometres of driving with the Whiteline swaybar, we haven't yet heard any bush squeaking. So with just the adjustable 22mm rear swaybar, a performance alignment and optimised tyre pressures we've already fixed much of the WRX's handling problem. How will the ALK, stiffer front swaybar and rear camber kit perform? Stay tuned!
jobg Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 22mm front and 24mm rear will give another dimension to the balance and grip again.
~ ~ Cal ~~ Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 I am holding off fitting a front ARB as I have heard a few people removing them stating that the rear on alone did a better job. So my question is still which "hole" to use on the adjustable rear sway bar Thanks CGS
cusco kid Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 hi i am just about to announce a group buy from whiteline all suspension parts available ---geo
scoobaroo Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 I am holding off fitting a front ARB as I have heard a few people removing them stating that the rear on alone did a better job. So my question is still which "hole" to use on the adjustable rear sway bar Thanks Use the MID setting Cal, ive mine on that setup and its like night and day to the stock setup, noticed a real improvement going round knockers, it gives the car a neutral feel, and you get great feedback with the car biting in at the back end through the likes of Dufus []. p.s. ive also got the front swaybar, links and ALK, comletely transforms the cars road and track manners !!! Highly recommend. [Y]
~ ~ Cal ~~ Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 MEGA ! I think I'll go for the most extreme setting and work backwards if required ! I have heard of some people running the middle setting in autumn / winter but I'll see how I fare. Looking forward to Knockers even more now ! Cheers CGS
Power Junkie Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 Cal go with the middle hole, if pushed the car will still step out a bit but easy to catch,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> I have the rear Droplinks and ARB, Front lower Strut brace, Anti lift kit and steering bushes, there is very little under steer now and very neutral handling, you have to get a full set-up when fitted to get the best out of it, I went for the 1/2 prodrive settings as recommended by Uncle Wuz very happy with it
~ ~ Cal ~~ Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 Thanks to WUZ and his numerous cups of tea I got this kit fitted today......... The back ( on the middle setting) is very keen to step out which makes a refreshing change to understeer at roundabout. Not got the confidence to fully exploit it today as it was VERY wet. The car feels a lot more planted and taught so I am well pleased with the results. Thanks again Russell...........top notch job my silicone smeared amigo ! Cheers Cal
sheep Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 Good stuff cal.[Y] Thats an other few things to add to my list for the car.[]
DaveHelium Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 just fitted my whiteline rear anti roll bar with drop links and anti lift kit along with a set of hight and dampining tein coilovers last week and got it set up also and has made a huge difference to my sti 7
craig mac Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 Aye But no mention of the chesire cat grin after taking Thunder for a blast Cal[] You enjoyed that[] we think CraiG
STi_Bandit Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 I was intrested in going for the same set-up cal, so be intrested to hear your full review once uve gotton used to the new set-up when your more fairmilar with it. Did you also get the geo re-done after getting the anti-lift kit done.? Bandit
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