pm9575 Posted March 20, 2006 Posted March 20, 2006 thinking about tryin to sourse the very best subaru, the one and only 22b how much will i expect to pay wat year plates and how many made for uk please? Have you seen the stock at www.marchmotors.co.uk , Brian always has some great cars on offer: RB5 WR amongst them.[au]
scoobyseller555 Posted March 20, 2006 Posted March 20, 2006 Have a look at http://rb5oc.ipbhost.com/index.php?showforum=42 Gav, the RB5 in Ian Grieve .... what number is it?? 162 m8 gav
RB5 69 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 162 m8 gav Cheers Gav, ive posted it in the for sale section of the Owners Club!! Any chance you could pass on details of the club to the lucky new owner!! [] Thanks, Norm.
scoobyseller555 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 162 m8 gav Cheers Gav, ive posted it in the for sale section of the Owners Club!! Any chance you could pass on details of the club to the lucky new owner!! [] Thanks, Norm. now sold to one very enthusiastic owner who once owned a 22b,and i am sure that he will be interested in joining. Gav
scoobyseller555 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 product knowledge....its a dangerous thing! lol Gav No, just another common scooby mistake. Just like RA's have alloy wings/tailgate and thinner glass! Clearly it is not a mistake,if you would like to phone i.m technical,they,with there wealth of knowledge will correct you and advise you that the rb5 has in fact,what subaru refer to as a 'solid back bulkhead' and that the car is in fact based on an sti6 shell(extra rigidity),and the afforementioned 'RA' or rally altered as it is commonly refered to in jdm in fact should have alloy wings and boot,thinner glass,no sound deadening etc....unless of course it has had accident damage in japan where a cheap fix can be done by fitting normal heavyweight panels but at less cost. With reference to my 'fixing cars aswell' no i tend not to get involved,and yes i am ONLY a SALESMAN,but my product and technical knowledge is good,in fact did you not have an rb5,so you should know all about the rear bulkhead thing,did i not buy your car when it was drive in falkirk T***SSG. Gav
drb5 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Yup, that was my own and i simply can't fathom how a removable bar is a solid rear bulkhead....unless i've been looking at something else, as i really haven't noticed anything different from one scoob to another, haven taken a few rear seats out, to fit fuel pumps. If you wish to be corrected on the RA bit's and bob's, i'll direct you to a couple of sites/people who deal with these motors a lot(something which UK Subaru dealers, do not) and who can agree with what i have already said earlier. Technical knowledge is great, if it is backed up with experience, which unless you've worked on scoobs, let alone JAP scoobs, i'm afraid you won't know these things FOR SURE. You read books and think it's gospel. One person say's something and it's gospel. I'm afraid all these thing's are not true and in the case of solid rear bulkhead....pointless, if inded it DOES exist. Can't say i've seen ANY parts dealer sell alloy wings/tailgates. Care to point me in their direction, till i question them and admit to being wrong?
scoobyseller555 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 it must be fantastic to have more knowledge of a product than fuji heavy industries themselves......pity you dont! solid rear bulkhead! fact!subaru printed spec of original car!they obviosly dont know the product they market! i dont need to be corrected on the spec and features of the subaru product.......especially by someone who works on so many of them......but hasn't noticed that a uk classic turbo from 94-01 never had any form of diagonal bars from the factory,and an rb5 did,not bolted in by the way,but in fact welded to the shell of the vehicle therefore not easily removed. now on my eighth impreza and having owned them since 95 i think im pretty well versed on the ins and outs of the models i have owned,i dont 'read books',i drive,and luckily sell imprezas. 'ONE PERSON SAYS SOMETHING AND ITS GOSPEL'generally if subaru wish to put something into print then i would have thought that it would be gospel......unless of course they are in the habit of mis-leading there customers. 'I'M AFRAID ALL THESE THINGS ARE NOT TRUE'please go back to the post by P1 SUB click on the link,read,and then eat my humble pie! appology accepted! oh and by the way you dont need to 'WORK ON SCOOBS' to open a boot and look inside,i know plenty of spray painters who cant paint,panel beaters who cant beat,mechanics who cant fix.'FOR SURE'and salesmen who cant sell.....luckily i dont fall into any of the above categories. Gav[]
drb5 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Lol, show me a picture of this solid rear bulkhead. It's easy to do, as if what you say is correct and it's not that daft wee bolted in bar, i really haven't got a clue where the difference was. Seen as you work with them every day, i doubt tht getting a pic, is difficult for you. Just to let you know, i am myself on my fourth scoob, at the age of 25. One of them being an RA, which didn't have an alloy tailgate or wings, or thinner glass......and did infact have sound deadening!! [] And before you say it, it WAS an RA and if you'd like proof of these things, i can arrange that no problems! There'smany things that aren't all true. God, a lot of tuners can't tell what cam's will be found in certain Jap car's, as they can be different from one to another, even though it's the same model and it's never been split. Up until a while ago, people didn't believe there was a 2 door WRX NON STi available and even then, when the selling advert appeared, they still didn't believe it. [] So all i'm saying there, is keep your eye's and ear's open. I'm more than welcome to be corrected, as it's a learning process, but your so stuck in your way's and so up yourself, that all YOU know what is true and correct, that i'd rather stay and talk to myself. []
drb5 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Oh and how much did you EVENTUALLY sell me old RB5 for? You certainly didn't make the roughly £7k, that you bumped the price up by! Lol.
scoobyseller555 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 lol.lol.lol 2 all 3 items,i think i made about £6995,but after the re-con that was necessery on your old car i think i had to dip into my wallet!lol[].If memory serves me correctly did wullie at crail not have one of these so called wrx 2 door not sti imports? i only come on here for the banter![][] Gav
RB5 69 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Thanks for the help Gav!! Having read this post, I thought for a minute I was on S/N!! Car in question wouldnt happen to be this one would it .... r.e. the solid rear bulkhead, how much difference the rear bar makes is debatable .... but is does exist! .... would have had bother lowering the seats in my MY96 car, if it had had one!! []
dave_morgan Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I've always been of the opinion that there isn't a particularly rigid spec adhered to when Subarus are being built (at least not in the early classics). There seem to be so many fluctations in the spec's of the 'same spec' cars, that I sometimes wonder if they just used what was lying in the parts bin on the day !! I've seen RA's which are virtually ready to fit a cage to and rally, whereas some have (factory) stereos, sound proofing, speakers A/C etc. I'm not sure anyone can give you a definitive spec of the early classics to be honest!! To answer the original question...... buy a P1 !! www.p1woc.co.uk []
steven_young Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 cant find one for the RB5 but here is the original P1 press release from subaru on page 5 it tells you about the solid bulkhead http://www.subaru.co.uk/p1/p1press1.htm. As said above buy a P1 []
drb5 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 lol.lol.lol 2 all 3 items,i think i made about £6995,but after the re-con that was necessery on your old car i think i had to dip into my wallet!lol[].If memory serves me correctly did wullie at crail not have one of these so called wrx 2 door not sti imports? i only come on here for the banter![][] Gav Lol, how'd you mean, re-con?
madk Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 The "Solid rear bulkhead" must be a joke... Its a horizontal piece of box tubing bolting across the back, its about as stable as windows95. K.
dougster Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 I removed the non solid bulkhead and fitted a rear door for extra stablity on my RB5 as I heard wagons handle far better.
scoobyseller555 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 dont know where your getting this horizontal bar thing from,to set the record straight,ALL uk classic non rb5 cars have rear seats that drop,therefore dont have any bars,rb5 has welded in diagonals and a solid welded in metal fixed parcel shelf between the 2 'c' pillars!identical to that of a p1(perhaps p1 sub your shell is 1 of these non sti 2 door coups LOL)hence the fact your p1 is so quick,weight saving and all that!how did you manage to fabricate the technical spec on that rb5 link so that it clearly reads SOLID REAR BULKHEAD,and the same for the p1,could it be anything to do with the FACT that both the rb5 & the p1 are based on sti shells!next i'll be getting advised that in fact p1's came into the country as 4 doors and some lunatic within prodrive decided to convert all 1000 of them to 2 doors,next i'll be told that there wasn't a white p1!LOL am ending maself here Gav
dougster Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Just you wait and see if I can find that very picture of my other P1 wagon!!!!!!!!!!!! (I resprayed it white though,............) The P1 IS an sti5 remember, just detuned by lunatics at Prodrive for the UK market. [] Is the 'cool grey' sti5 not a different shade to the 'blue steel' (is that not Zoolanders new look for 2006???) of the rb5 and did Subaru UK specifiy an sti painted shell for basically a modified UK car????
scoobyseller555 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 p1 isnt really detuned for the uk market as they came in with the gentlemans agreement 276bhp and fettled by prodrive for the uk market. Gav[]
steven_young Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Just you wait and see if I can find that very picture of my other P1 wagon!!!!!!!!!!!! (I resprayed it white though,............) The P1 IS an sti5 remember, just detuned by lunatics at Prodrive for the UK market. [] Is the 'cool grey' sti5 not a different shade to the 'blue steel' (is that not Zoolanders new look for 2006???) of the rb5 and did Subaru UK specifiy an sti painted shell for basically a modified UK car???? Thats great, here have an
scoobyseller555 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 rb5 steel blue and cool grey are 1 in the same,paint code 86F for reference,but hey,'IM JUST A SALESMAN!' is that an apple or a PLUM???????????[]
scoobyseller555 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 its absolutely amazing,guess what!!!over on ebay theres this RB5OC car for sale and guess what.....the owner refers to the original spec list of the car.............no way i say to myself!!!!!!!!!!SOLID REAR BULKHEAD!!!!!!!!!in black and white,ive a good mind to phone the mobile number listed and tell him he's obviously sadly mistaken,and in fact the rb5 is based on the 1.6GL shell of 1993.lol. surely not an rb5 owner who doesnt know his car! p1 sub did your rb5 have a solid back bulkhead,or is the one ive sold in fact a 1 off? Gav
sharon_mccall Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 FPMSL...............haahahahahahahahahahaa [][][]
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