col666 Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 Need some more info on impreza type r's, is the 'Oracle' around? AKA The Squirrel! 1999 version 5 Model- Does this model have- a short ratio gearbox like the type RA? DCCD Control? and is it true that they can be a bit skittish in the wet? Swany at AWD told me that with my driving style I would end up in a box if I bought one!!! Col.
p1ggm Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 << and is it true that they can be a bit skittish in the wet? Swany at AWD told me that with my driving style I would end up in a box if I bought one!!! Col. >> or in the tyres sorry col i like the type r
p1ggm Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 i copied you anyway...three times, hope you are coming to the next one we have booked
col666 Posted January 22, 2006 Author Posted January 22, 2006 might do, dont want to tempt fate though if i have a new toy!
darryll Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 very easy to get yer ass out in a type r wet or dry u just need to be rdy , u need to be on the ball when tankin in to fast tight corners .total different from any other scoob i have driven and will be a hard car to replace when the time comes.
darryll Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 oops also forgot they r a pain in the ringo on long motorways could do wi 6 speed ,also fuel gauge is like a rev counter.
jamie_wood Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 Colin That car is not an Ra so you dont have the mega short gearing that they had. It comes with the DCCD I take it you know how that works, yeh? It lets you vary the torque split between the front and rear axles by controling the center diff from fully open right up to locked position. In the open position it makes the car more of a rear wheel drive car by delivering less "drive" to the front wheels than the rear. This means that in damp or wet conditions the back end will break traction under hard acceleration. Thats the point at which you would adjust the diff up towards the lock position ( not right the way up though) I would need to light up 2 bars on my display to get decent traction in the wet, but I also had the short gearing so it was a lot more torque(y) through the gears. It best to run the diff in the open position when on normal road conditions and unless you feel the car starting to break traction. In the fully locked position its pretty hard work on the car when trying to turn in the likes of a car park etc and is bad for the diff. Make sure its open at all times unless you need to get that extra traction Its not a hard car to drive , it just takes a little more thought when exiting a corner. You cant bang the throttle down like a WRX or a simple STI would be able to do. Its more of a drivers car and it only a case of learning it after a few frights Donuts are a doddle As Andy N will tell you, Drifting is easier And they are great in the snow cause you can lock the center diff
WUZ Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 It doesn't have a short ratio gearbox like the RA, it has the same ratios as the normal 4 and 5-door STi's. It has DCCD which has been fairly well explained by Hi Soob. They will be oversteer-biased when the diff is fully open bit will be less so as you dial in more diff lock. You can run th ecar fully locked but it will made some really bad noises as you turn corners due to the fact that the inside and outside tyres are turning together and not at different speeds so the inside wheel to the corner will try to skip round. I have a manual here which can explain it for you if need be. If you do run it fully locked and then com into a car park, lift the handbrake just enough to bring on the handbrake light. This puts the DCCD back into FULLY OPEN until you remove the handbrake. Finally, the diff is actually 2 electromagnetic plates which are controlled by the Diif Thumbwheel inside the car. Each light is only a rough guide as to the level of OPEN/Close the diffis at. even a little movement that does not show on the light indicator will still affect diff lock level. Russell
scientific steve Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 yes, the back can step out a bit but it's part of the fun it wont be unexpected though, try it and you wont need any more info you'll just end up with a big grin and a new mota
colin_ross Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 So what's your driving style like exactly? I used to have a uk97 and felt I could get the most out of it almost straight away. Planting your foot exiting a corner? No problem. Changing direction on WOT? Bring it on! Greasy bend on an unkown road? I might have to put my drink down but sure, why not? The Type R is totally different. First off, yes it's got shorter gearing. Not mega short like an RA but if you plan on taking it on the quarter mile you'll be using all 5 gears. Mines good for just over 150 mph at approx 8k revs so not that short but 80mph does work out to 4k revs so bear that in mine if you'll be using it on the motorway a lot. If its an sti version, and there are non sti versions out there, then yes it should have DCCD. Won't bother to describe it as Jamie beat me to the punch and did a better job than I could. I really depends what you want from the car. Everyday cruiser or weekend warrior? I say this to anyone who asks me how they compare but in contrast to the uk model when I first got the Type R I nearly crashed it every time I took it out the garage. You really need to take your time and learn how to drive them. The more you drive it the more you'll like it and when you know how they react they're a total weapon. Short of a 22B it honestly can't think of another Subaru I'd rather have. I'd offer to take you out in mine if you're thinking of buying one but it'll be out for action for the next few weeks. If you're still looking after that let me know.
IanJ Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 Sorry to hijack the thread.... Guys, Is the V5 Sti ra a similar drive and gearing? Cheers, Ian
jamie_wood Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 Typicaly the Ra has a lower geared final drive Mine did approx 125-130 @8250rpm (Version 5 Ra) The type R (which is the 3 door car) had a higher geared final drive (approx 145Mph+) Remember you can get a Type R Ra though (3 door with Ra gearing) But you need to check when looking at these cars as they often dont have the ratios they should have. They get changed sometimes and often have a taller 5th gear Can be confusing
WUZ Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 And to top it all off, the V-Limited Ra's (like mine) used the 5th gear ratio like the type R's so motorways are 80mph @ 4K..................................................LIVEABLE I'M SURE YOU'LL AGREE Russell
WUZ Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 Jamie, you are correct in that you can get 3-door Ra's BUT they were only WRX's, not STi's Russell
jamie_wood Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 << Jamie, you are correct in that you can get 3-door Ra's BUT they were only WRX's, not STi's Russell >> ...OOOOPS Forgot to mention it Thanks
IanJ Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 and theres me spent all weekend trying to find one too Thanks guys. So what does a v-ltd have over the other models then?
jamie_wood Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 V Limited cars were only available from Sept 1995 They were limited runs of 1000 as far as I know. On WRX STI RA V Limited cars , you got prety much all the toys a non Ra car had. Electrics, air con ,etc. but it was still the light weight car, full Ra spec. Not sure when the interiors changed, but they had blue seats and facias. To be honest , I dont think there was much extra on them that wasnt on a regular STI. Just the fact it was a limited run made them desirable WUZ will know more baout them. Not sure if there was gearing changes too?? WUZ???
Gee Wr1 Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 V limiteds started in 1995 to celebrate winning the WRC, The V limited came in WRX & STI RA versions. There were 1000 WRX V-Limiteds built. Special features were- A Aluminium plate with the serial number ??/1000 Gold painted STI 5 spoke alloys ABS brakes Green tinted glass FIA emblem on boot STI seats with FIA emblem on backs. Came in Sports blue, feather white or black mica. 260bhp standard. The STI RA version was limited to 555 cars & only came in Sports blue. Special features over standard Ra: Aluminium plaque with serial number ??/555 Had all the electrics as HiSoob mentioned FIA emblems on boot FIA emblems in seat backs & also had Colin McRae & Derek Ringers signatures embroidered on them. Green tinted glass. 280bhp standard. The V limited version has been kept through the years/models with limited numbered runs all being a bit more special than the standard STI's.
GrantyBoy Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 just to throw this in my 98 Type R is for sale as I bought a house at the weekend. DOubt I'll be able to afford the mortgage now and running cost. PM me if interested
WUZ Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 98- Ra V-limited cars were run in builds of 1000 apart from the last year (2000 ie, STi6 V-limited cars) which were a final production run of 2000.
IanJ Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Thanks for the info guys. Grant, i'll be looking for a new scooby soon....only it'll be in Australia as i'm off at the end of next month (Sorry)
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