saltire scoobie Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 HI THERE ANY OF YOU GUYS TRIED THIS I GOT ONE FROM MY SIS TO TRY BUT DONT KNOW IF I TRUST IT OR NOT YOU SPRAY IT ON AND WIPE IT OFF WATERLESS IM MORE A FAN OF WASHING IT THEN POLISHING MY CAR WHATS YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS STUFF ?
C_WRX Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) I don't really know a huge amount about the waterless wash type of product but I think when you use it is key. If it's at a time when your car should be bucket & mitt (no sponges allowed!!) washed then you'll likely just scratch the paintwork. I think you spray a panel of your car with a waterless car wash formula, let it sit for a few seconds, and then wipe off. Would make me a little nervous. From what I've read about it it is basically explained in that there are 2 types of dirt that can end up on your car - dust and everything else. Waterless Wash I believe is made for more for the dust end of dirt (if that makes sense??). Edited December 28, 2009 by C_WRX
boab type ra Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Hi m8 i have been using proshine waterless spray and shine for 5 years on my type ra and have been using it on my wr1 and it has never left a scratch not even when it has been thick with dirt and very surprised with the shine it gives.
cusco kid Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 HI THERE ANY OF YOU GUYS TRIED THIS I GOT ONE FROM MY SIS TO TRY BUT DONT KNOW IF I TRUST IT OR NOT YOU SPRAY IT ON AND WIPE IT OFF WATERLESS IM MORE A FAN OF WASHING IT THEN POLISHING MY CAR WHATS YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS STUFF ? i use Prolong waterless shine when going to car shows ,never had any problems geo
jcscoob Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 lol My neeber uses it and swears by it, even had me across for a rub
saltire scoobie Posted December 30, 2009 Author Posted December 30, 2009 hey thanx for the feedback guys guess ill give it a try and see wot happens
scoobyiain Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Don't know why i came back to this thread but will be having bad dreams tonight
wrxmania Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 I can almost feel your hands shaking Iain...who needs detailing
Ultimate Shine Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 Please don't use that on prized possesion, drop round my unit in Markinch next to David Sands and i will show you the answer.
kebab nemesis Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 Have to agree with Paul@Ultimate Shine, give him a visit and he will sort you out, I personally would be horrified at the thought of removing dirt with a waterless method. I will stick to what I know.
oobster Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 Don't know why i came back to this thread but will be having bad dreams tonight <sigh> Since you obviously don't approve of the product perhaps you would offer the OP the benefit of your experience (have you even used it?) or are you just content with posting unhelpful nonsense with emoticons on the end?
scoobyiain Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 Have i used it? Andy please, you should know better! When i was on the SIDC stand for a show back in 07 i had a walk around and found a stand advertising the stuff. Stood and watched the guy use it then had a lengthy chat with him about it. All he was doing was putting purified mud over the car and wiping it off so wasn't giving real life dirt/grit a test with it. No it wasn't leaving any scratches but only because there was no grit in the mud he was throwing on, he was however leaving plenty of swirl marks. Waterless products and t-cut is satan's sperm don't use it. Someone has been nice enough to offer you how to clean a car proper so i suggest you take up that offer.
scouk Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 Stood and watched the guy use it then had a lengthy chat with him about it. All he was doing was putting purified mud over the car and wiping it off so wasn't giving real life dirt/grit a test with it. No it wasn't leaving any scratches but only because there was no grit in the mud he was throwing on, he was however leaving plenty of swirl marks. Sounds about right... This stuff is beign advertised to buggery on one of the digitial shopping channels at the moment.. Looks impressive with their little white lies.. Yes it is a dirty body panel you have.. and yes look how quickly it wiped off and look at how cleanand shiny the surface is.. FACT - It's not possible to get that level of finish on a aged body panel just by simply cleaning it.. THe panels on the demos are pre-polished and possibly pre-waxed.. Then just covered in grime without givign it time to get a grip! (pun intended) Sure it didn't "appear" to leave any scratches but it will.. Overtime you'll start to see the scratches showing! Even doing the full method of snow foaming/two bucket mitting and taking extra care at what your doign will increase scratches.. Admitely on a much reduces level but any contact with the surface is likely to damage it.. I'm sure the stuff works in a reasonable way but I don't believe the shpeel that it can bring back a showroom shine on a 10year old car which has been used every day in it's life and completely remove fading throgh oxidisation in a single use, I'd be very impressed if it could!.. But I wouldn't expect to use it without seeing scratches over time. Maybe use it for light dusting off or as a detailing spray, but any mud gunk and especially this time of year, grit and salt, I wouldn't touch it.. If you want a job done.. Do it properly!
cusco kid Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 Have i used it? Andy please, you should know better!When i was on the SIDC stand for a show back in 07 i had a walk around and found a stand advertising the stuff. Stood and watched the guy use it then had a lengthy chat with him about it. All he was doing was putting purified mud over the car and wiping it off so wasn't giving real life dirt/grit a test with it. No it wasn't leaving any scratches but only because there was no grit in the mud he was throwing on, he was however leaving plenty of swirl marks. Waterless products and t-cut is satan's sperm don't use it. Someone has been nice enough to offer you how to clean a car proper so i suggest you take up that offer. dont knock it till you try it ,i got the same CR*P on here when i introduced TEFLON polish and additives ,now i supply it to loads of people ,who keep comming back for more . i have cured many subaru gearboxes of whines and gear selection problems geo
wrxmania Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 You could always try the one bucket method Brilliant video. Lots of great advice on http://www.detailingworld.co.uk Brian.
scoobyiain Posted January 4, 2010 Posted January 4, 2010 Sorry but i have to upload my 50/50 shot again Now i know for a fact that no waterless products, t-cut or TEFLON can produce this sort of finish and bring paint back to life. This was done using menzerna intensive polish by hand with a german applicator pad. Geo, i have seen a few cars with your products on it and wasn't impressed. I can also remember detailing a members car on here just a month after applying your TEFLON. I'm sure a few members will agree i'm good at what i do and know what i'm talking about.
sparky_sj04 Posted January 4, 2010 Posted January 4, 2010 (edited) I'm sure a few members will agree i'm good at what i do and know what i'm talking about. I'm sure a few of the members will agree that you only come on here for an argument. It's a wonder you're not a millionaire, seeing as you seem to be the ONLY person that knows how to clean a car! Horses for courses, people can use what they want to achieve the finish they want. By all means have an opinion and that may be right or wrong, but don't chastise people for the products and methods that they use. It's their car and they can use it how they wish. Some like to clean, some like to drive.... So t-cut is crap as well? Oh well I wouldn't imagine we'll see that on the market for long then!!! Edited January 4, 2010 by sparky_sj04
braveheart Posted January 4, 2010 Posted January 4, 2010 I'm sure a few of the members will agree that you only come on here for an argument. It's a wonder you're not a millionaire, seeing as you seem to be the ONLY person that knows how to clean a car! I would agree with this above comment, ....your defo not the only person on this forum that knows how to detail... bare that in mind pal. I would be happy to sit and take advise from you but all i hear is you blowing your own pipe..and bringing other peoples work down not the way to do buissness im affraid.
mikeyb13 Posted January 4, 2010 Posted January 4, 2010 (edited) Must say Chris for the first time ever I agree with Ian! IMHO He's no politician but he really does know what he's talking about when it comes to cleaning cars. Two bucket method, quality polish if needed and then a few layers of wax or sealant Lots of the rich/stupid Doctors at work get regular waterless valets and within a couple of years their paint looks dull and lifeless. My older cars gleam in comparison and theirs are almost brand new Cant say Ive ever noticed it causing any scratches but it definately leaves swirls and doesnt give a perfect finish. Then again i know im one of the few saddo's that actually enjoy spending a whole day cleaning my car Edited January 4, 2010 by mikeyb13
scoobyiain Posted January 4, 2010 Posted January 4, 2010 I don't work for or run a detailing business so no money is made from what i do. I agree people can do as they wish and use whatever products there is. Andy commented that i should give my advice so i did, i don't think i ever said they can't use waterless products. T-cut has been on the market for so long because most people are not educated in the other better products out there. Chris, i didn't realise we were pals? Not blowing my own pipe one bit here. When i was a regular on the forums there were many people praising my work or asking me to detail their cars, was just letting the newbies that have commented know that i have some knowledge in cleaning products.
braveheart Posted January 4, 2010 Posted January 4, 2010 Must say Chris for the first time ever I agree with Ian! IMHO He's no politician but he really does know what he's talking about when it comes to cleaning cars.Two bucket method, quality polish if needed and then a few layers of wax or sealant Lots of the rich/stupid Doctors at work get regular waterless valets and within a couple of years their paint looks dull and lifeless. My older cars gleam in comparison and theirs are almost brand new Cant say Ive ever noticed it causing any scratches but it definately leaves swirls and doesnt give a perfect finish. Then again i know im one of the few saddo's that actually enjoy spending a whole day cleaning my car I'll remember that when my car needs cleaned then lol mines will be needing done in Feb ...cheers
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