Induction kit??

[butler]

Hi guys was wondering if putting an induction kit on my sti v3 is worth it or just drop in a aftermarket panel filter? Heard that induction kits can maybe cause damage? cheers lee

[the squiggle]

If it is a std ECU then just be satisfied with a STI panel filter available from ASPerformance.  The V3 STI is pretty agressively mapped from the factory, nippy booger is it not, so just keep her std and she will see you good for many a mile too come.  When funds allow fit a Apexi Power Intake cone filter as this is the best for flow and filtration, decat down pipe, uprated fuel pump and plugs and fit a mappable ECU at the same time and get it mapped by god, www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk , the result will  be reliable 320 hp and similer torque.  Cost for this transformation is in the region of 1000 of your earth pounds. until your disposable funds reach this level service her with 10w/60 oil or 15w/50 if you are going to track/drag her every 3000 - 4500 miles and use a STI panel filter. AND FOR GOD SAKES DO NOT FIT A DUMP VALVE, the std one does the job more than well enough, if you really want the whooooooosh noise fit a soda stream to your pax seat and have the benefit of a refreshing drink whenever.  Your engine and bank manager will thank you in the long term.

Hope this helps

Rats ar$e out of a drainpipe

[thewelsho]

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If it is a std ECU then just be satisfied with a STI panel filter available from ASPerformance.  The V3 STI is pretty agressively mapped from the factory, nippy booger is it not, so just keep her std and she will see you good for many a mile too come.  When funds allow fit a Apexi Power Intake cone filter as this is the best for flow and filtration, decat down pipe, uprated fuel pump and plugs and fit a mappable ECU at the same time and get it mapped by god, www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk , the result will  be reliable 320 hp and similer torque.  Cost for this transformation is in the region of 1000 of your earth pounds. until your disposable funds reach this level service her with 10w/60 oil or 15w/50 if you are going to track/drag her every 3000 - 4500 miles and use a STI panel filter. AND FOR GOD SAKES DO NOT FIT A DUMP VALVE, the std one does the job more than well enough, if you really want the whooooooosh noise fit a soda stream to your pax seat and have the benefit of a refreshing drink whenever.  Your engine and bank manager will thank you in the long term.

Hope this helps

Rats ar$e out of a drainpipe

Now, there's a man who knows what he's talking about!

[corsa]

Fit a dump valve, you know you want to.

 

And it does not do any harm to your car[H]

[mrbadger]

I love SodaStream, Don't drink and drive tho...

[thewelsho]

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I love SodaStream, Don't drink and drive tho...

Duncan, what is with the flurry of posts lately? Given up your job?

[the squiggle]

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If it is a std ECU then just be satisfied with a STI panel filter available from ASPerformance.  The V3 STI is pretty agressively mapped from the factory, nippy booger is it not, so just keep her std and she will see you good for many a mile too come.  When funds allow fit a Apexi Power Intake cone filter as this is the best for flow and filtration, decat down pipe, uprated fuel pump and plugs and fit a mappable ECU at the same time and get it mapped by god, www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk , the result will  be reliable 320 hp and similer torque.  Cost for this transformation is in the region of 1000 of your earth pounds. until your disposable funds reach this level service her with 10w/60 oil or 15w/50 if you are going to track/drag her every 3000 - 4500 miles and use a STI panel filter. AND FOR GOD SAKES DO NOT FIT A DUMP VALVE, the std one does the job more than well enough, if you really want the whooooooosh noise fit a soda stream to your pax seat and have the benefit of a refreshing drink whenever.  Your engine and bank manager will thank you in the long term.

Hope this helps

Rats ar$e out of a drainpipe

Now, there's a man who knows what he's talking about!

Tony the Tiger taught me everything i know

 

[G.Mac]

No, he's just trying to figure out whats wrong with my computer

 

Graeme

(loathed to bring it back as its working with the cheapo graphics card) 

[thewelsho]

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If it is a std ECU then just be satisfied with a STI panel filter available from ASPerformance.  The V3 STI is pretty agressively mapped from the factory, nippy booger is it not, so just keep her std and she will see you good for many a mile too come.  When funds allow fit a Apexi Power Intake cone filter as this is the best for flow and filtration, decat down pipe, uprated fuel pump and plugs and fit a mappable ECU at the same time and get it mapped by god, www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk , the result will  be reliable 320 hp and similer torque.  Cost for this transformation is in the region of 1000 of your earth pounds. until your disposable funds reach this level service her with 10w/60 oil or 15w/50 if you are going to track/drag her every 3000 - 4500 miles and use a STI panel filter. AND FOR GOD SAKES DO NOT FIT A DUMP VALVE, the std one does the job more than well enough, if you really want the whooooooosh noise fit a soda stream to your pax seat and have the benefit of a refreshing drink whenever.  Your engine and bank manager will thank you in the long term.

Hope this helps

Rats ar$e out of a drainpipe

Now, there's a man who knows what he's talking about!

Tony the Tiger taught me everything i know

 

Grant, what would I get with a sports cat, uprated fuel pump and a remap? MY06 WRX - just incase you forgot!

 

[butler]

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If it is a std ECU then just be satisfied with a STI panel filter available from ASPerformance.  The V3 STI is pretty agressively mapped from the factory, nippy booger is it not, so just keep her std and she will see you good for many a mile too come.  When funds allow fit a Apexi Power Intake cone filter as this is the best for flow and filtration, decat down pipe, uprated fuel pump and plugs and fit a mappable ECU at the same time and get it mapped by god, www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk , the result will  be reliable 320 hp and similer torque.  Cost for this transformation is in the region of 1000 of your earth pounds. until your disposable funds reach this level service her with 10w/60 oil or 15w/50 if you are going to track/drag her every 3000 - 4500 miles and use a STI panel filter. AND FOR GOD SAKES DO NOT FIT A DUMP VALVE, the std one does the job more than well enough, if you really want the whooooooosh noise fit a soda stream to your pax seat and have the benefit of a refreshing drink whenever.  Your engine and bank manager will thank you in the long term.

Hope this helps

Rats ar$e out of a drainpipe

It is a standard ECU m8. I aint fitting a dump valve, heard to many bad stories related to scoobies and bovs. Was just thinking of going for the panel filter and a full exhaust system just now. Is getting a induction kit not really worth it then? I was going to get an hks kit as i like the sound they make when spooling up!

[johnnyr6]

As Grant said, if your going to get an induction kit get the apexi kit. Works well on the scoob, you'll get the spooling up sound with that too. A full 3" system is the way to go removing the cat. 2.5" works well too but 3" means less hassle if you go for more power in the future.

[iainc]

Does the Apexi come with the same bore for mounting the MAF sensor in as the std MAF location do you know?

ie would it require a remap due to the difference in airflow to that being measured (esp on an 06STi)

[gus the bus]

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Does the Apexi come with the same bore for mounting the MAF sensor in as the std MAF location do you know?

ie would it require a remap due to the difference in airflow to that being measured (esp on an 06STi)

Iain, the Apexi (in an upto 96 car) comes with the same bore pipe and attaches to the MAF sensor unit rather than taking the sensor part off the unit and attaching it to the Apexi.

It will need a Remap tho as the flow rate is increased due to the size of cone and the fact that it doesnt have 30miles of bends and plastic to pass thru first.

Gus

PS not sure what the set-up is with post 96 cars[:$] sorry! 

 

 

[the squiggle]

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Does the Apexi come with the same bore for mounting the MAF sensor in as the std MAF location do you know?

ie would it require a remap due to the difference in airflow to that being measured (esp on an 06STi)

Dont think they do an Apexi Filter for the Newage cars

Yes a Newage car would defo need a remap when fitting a Induction kit

[james666]

Apexi power flow is a good filter mate as thats wot i have on my classic and if you check out. indigo-gt you might find 1 there for new age for £100 give or take few bucks

[gus the bus]

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Apexi power flow is a good filter mate as thats wot i have on my classic and if you check out. indigo-gt you might find 1 there for new age for £100 give or take few bucks

Exactly where I got mine and Z1000 got his. Cheaper than anywhere I could see.

Gus 

[butler]

Think i'll go for the apexi kit sounds good! Does it come with all fittings? Also looking to lower my car guys, just really want to go about 30mm. Having trouble finding springs to do the job and at decent prices!! Anyone help? Cheers

[nanaki]

for springs send a message to cusco kid mate. he sorted me out with some nice whiteline ones. so much nicer handling now.

[gus the bus]

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for springs send a message to cusco kid mate. he sorted me out with some nice whiteline ones. so much nicer handling now.

Me too[] along with the full Whiteline set-up. Excellent gear[Y] 

[butler]

Pm'd you gus about springs!

[z1000]

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Apexi power flow is a good filter mate as thats wot i have on my classic and if you check out. indigo-gt you might find 1 there for new age for £100 give or take few bucks

 

Great fiilter and combined with a decat exhaust and scoobyecu chip makes a huge difference on my 95 sti.

[gus the bus]

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Apexi power flow is a good filter mate as thats wot i have on my classic and if you check out. indigo-gt you might find 1 there for new age for £100 give or take few bucks

 

Great fiilter and combined with a decat exhaust and scoobyecu chip makes a huge difference on my 95 sti.

.....and dont forget the uprated fuel pump[]

[z1000]

And the coil packs and the clutch and the uprated brakes and the suspension and so it goes on !

[iainc]

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Does the Apexi come with the same bore for mounting the MAF sensor in as the std MAF location do you know?

ie would it require a remap due to the difference in airflow to that being measured (esp on an 06STi)

Iain, the Apexi (in an upto 96 car) comes with the same bore pipe and attaches to the MAF sensor unit rather than taking the sensor part off the unit and attaching it to the Apexi.

It will need a Remap tho as the flow rate is increased due to the size of cone and the fact that it doesnt have 30miles of bends and plastic to pass thru first.

Gus

PS not sure what the set-up is with post 96 cars[:$] sorry! 

 

Surely the ECU takes the air flow info from the MAF sensor? If it is sitting in the exact same bore as the OEM part the it shouldn't matter if it's directly bolted to the end or runs thru' 400 miles of tubing before it gets there. A bore of a certain size can only flow so much at any point in time anyway. That would be my understanding anyway. If that's the case then the std ECU should manage to cope.

I know I had a full decat and induction kit on a 94 wagon before for 4.5 years or so and it was never remapped at all (and suffered no problems), now I understand the newage cars may be different in some ways but can't understand why a remap would automatically be required?

Obviously if someone has a good explaination for it then I'm happy to hear it but I just can't get my head around why it would be required if it's the same bore, or uses the existing MAF unit (ie not just the sensor put in a larger bore pipe).

Iain.

[the squiggle]

Andy F will give you an exact answer but in general the later cars tend to run richer on a std ECU after fitting a cone filter.  The std airbox ultimatly breathes through the snorkjel on the slam panel or the inner wing.  The diameter of the std opening is less than that of the after market cone filter.  The car will breathe more air in on the induction stroke as a result of less resistance and a greater hole to breathe through.  This in turn gives the MAF sensor a greater signal for any given point on the ECU map.  The O2 sensor will try to compensate up to a point but in general the car will run richer than normal

If you want the car to spit flames Hannu Mikkola would be proud of out the back,  Fit a VTA Dump Valve, Decat and a Cone Filter to a std ECU