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Subaru Impreza WRX STI Type UK v Gallardo Superleggera Could the new UK-spec STI really live with a Lamborghini? We find out on the rain-lashed roads of Snowdonia Text: Richard Meaden / Photos: Andy Morgan February 2008 It’s been a long time coming, but finally, after the teaser photos and Tokyo Show debut, Subaru’s radically reinvented Impreza STI has finally landed in the UK. We’re treating the opinion-splitting all-wheel-drive hatchback to a good old-fashioned evo-style welcome, with a two-day thrash across the relentlessly testing tarmac of North Wales. And to add some spice we’ve also invited the Impreza STI’s ideological enemy: an Italian supercar, in this case the hard-as-nails Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera. It’s a mouth-watering meeting cunningly engineered to test that fondly held belief that on the right day, on the right road, and in the right conditions, twenty-five grand’s-worth of plucky all-wheel-drive icon can harass a bona fide member of the automotive aristocracy. It’s a peasants’ revolt the old STI saloon was always more than capable of pulling-off. If the new STI can do the same, it’ll go a long way to appeasing those who question Subaru’s sanity in ditching four doors, a boot and a ruddy-great wing in favour of a dumpy five-door hatchback Brian

BELOW IS THE RESPONSE FROM TURBOSMART, WHEN I READ ALL THE POSTS I E MAILED THEM FOR THOUGHTS. From: Andy Taylor [mailto:andy@aet-turbos.co.uk] Sent: 07 February 2007 16:02 To: Brian Smith Cc: Andy Nichols; Grant Parker; Matthew Leedale Subject: RE: 03 newage subaru impreza wrx TURBOSMART DUMP VALVE Dear Brian Thank you for your email and your concerns about running an atmospheric BOV on your vehicle. I have passed on your concerns to T/Smart in Aus and below is there thoughts: “It all sounds great what he has written, but the "fuel cut on over run" or "Decel fuel cut" or what ever else you want to call it will shut the injectors off when you lift of the throttle, this sorts everything out. What he has written "might" happen for the shortest time, but in my opinion will cause no real world measurable effect. The back firing etc in the exhaust happens as the revs drop down towards idle speed and the ECU will start fuelling again to allow for a smooth transition back to idle and not to cause stalling.” Might I add in all the years we have sold this product we have never had any feedback from anyone advising us of this problem and Subaru is our biggest market. Cheers, Andy Taylor -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Smith Sent: 05 February 2007 10:34 To: Subject: 03 newage subaru impreza wrx Hi hope you can help, I have just fitted a v port turbosmart dump valve to my 03 wrx impreza. I am very pleased with it and love the sound, but on our sidc website one of our members said they can be detrimental to the engine can you elevate my fears. Hear is his article below Thanks Brian smith Scotland united kingdom. My email address is The Impreza runs off the MAF sensor when in open loop fuelling, when you are giving it some stick. The Mass Air Flow will meter the amount af air being drawn into the engine and inject the corresponding amount of fuel amount to achieve a rich enough Air to Fuel Ratio when on boost/load conditions. When you release the throttle, to change gear or slow, on a std recirc dump valve, the pressurized air will be dumped back into the inlet tract between the MAF and turbo inlet. When the throttle is closed on gear change on slow down the ecu will inject a corresponding amount of fuel to achieve a satisfactory AFR to compensate for the extra volume being drawn in. When you fit a Vent to Atmos dump valve, the pressurized air will be released to the atmosphere when the throttle is closed but the ECU will still dump extra fuel in trying to achieve a satisfactory AFR. The ECU thinks there is an extra volume of air being drawn in the engine and will inject the right amount of fuel to compensate, this metered volume of air has now been dumped into the atmosphere instead of the inlet tract. A std ECU has no way of knowing that the Air volume that has passed the MAF , which has been metered for and compensated for accordingly has been released outside the inlet tract instead of being drawn into the engine. This will in turn make the AFR be very RICH due to the air part of the AFR being expelled through a valve the ECU has no knowledge of The extra fuel that is being drawn into the engine, minus the volume of air the ECU was expecting will do 1 of 2 things. 1. It will explode when the rich mixture hits the piston crown, giving a flash of lift off DET. At full boost and at the point of ignition the temp of the exhaust gases can average 800 and hit 900 - 1000 degrees centigrade after a spirited drive, the crowns of the piston at the point of ignition can be as high as 700 - 800c. This temperature is more than enough to ignite the fuel mixture before the spark can do the job and be a cause of lift off det and lift off dat can be damaging as DET under load 2. It will not explode but as the mixture has ignited by the spark from the plugs and the flame front travels across the piston, by the time the exhaust valve has opened on the exhaust stoke the overly rich mixture has not fully burnt by the inappropriate ignition level . Sometimes the rich fuel vapors not burnt from the time allotted in the combustion process will pop in the exhaust housing of the turbo when the gases exit the combustion chamber. Sometimes these pops will be sufficient to produce a a flame strong enough to travel the length of the exhaust syatem resulting a nice wee flame for everyone to go aaaaaawwwwww at but every time you do not get a flame the unburt fuel will be lingering somewhere in the exhaust tract, headers, hot side of turbo or even the chamber walls The atomized fuel droplets that cling to the wall in the combustion chamber will clean the oil off the walls of the piston bore every time the overly rich Air/Fuel mixture is being drawn into cylinders. The unburnt fuel mixture will get past the compression and oil control rings due to petrol mixture being a lot finer than oil and the excess mixture that has not been ignited will stick to the cylinder walls due to the condensation effect of the AFR that is being pumped into the engine every time the inlet valves open, mixture being around 10-30c and the walls of the cylinder being around 200 - 400c, the retaining temp from the previous combustion cycle which at 6000 rpm (avg gearchange rpm) would have happened millisecs beforehand . This fine petrol mixture will be transferred to the oil in the sump, getting past the oil control rings as atomized fuel is a lot finer than thick engine oil. The classics lubricated the piston bores and under the piston crown with the end of the crank scooping oil up and throwing the oil up the bores, apart from STI RA's which had under crown oil cooling jets to cool the underside of the piston. The oil that has been thrown up by the crank to lubricate the bore is prevented from entering the combustion chamber by the rings on the piston but atomized fuel can easily get past these rings assisted by the pressurized gases in the combustion chamber above helping it on its way and once past the rings the tiny droplets of fuel will soon find its way to the sump abley assisted by the laws of gravity. Over time these droplets of fuel will be sufficient to start to thin the oil down to a dangerous level and increase the chance of picking up a big end bearing My advice for the peeps running a Vent to Atmosphere is to, apart from dump them in the bin, is to increase the regularity of oil changes. Hope this helps

doing fine Gav, just leading the quiet life,busy with work just looking forward to the better weather and spring time so i can bring the car out of its hibernation hope the family is all well. Brian

SOUNDS LIKE A POTENTIAL, FOR THE BTCC. BRIAN

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just read the article, on page 15 of this weeks motorsport news. ( The scottish section of the subaru Impreza drivers club is organising a memorial run as a tribute to colin McRae. ) by Jo Holland

well done Grant, a great idea count me in Brian

Hi Noel try Dunc at hypertec , it was Dunc who installed all my defi gauges and pod and carried out a very professional job. All the best for the newyear. Brian

£ 35.00 from me :kerstsmiley:

good to here son, that all went well at duncs. so was it two or a couple. catch up with you soon. Brian

A pleasure to have you in our select rally club, if your here your not their or is it the other way round go on go on go on

first class pics gus , I am still recovering from all that Brian

Paul, pleased to here the car is sold, carry on modding Brian

Hi Paul. sorry I missed you on sunday car looks good. The only problem I can see is that roll cage needs the sammy the chamois treatment. Brian

Brian

A FIRST CLASS WEEKEND OF RALLYING HERE IS THE RESULTS FROM THE WEEKEND Results after SS19 (of 19) 1 Neil MacKinnon/Daniel Barritt (Subaru Impreza WRC) 2hr 26m 50s 2 John Cope/Robert Fagg (Subaru Impreza WRC) 2h 29m 11s 3 James MacGillivray/Ian Fraser (Ford Escort Mk2) 2h 31m 29s 4 Daniel Harper/Chris Campbell (BMW MINI Cooper S) 2h 31m 56s 5 Tristan Pye/Kirsty Riddick (Subaru Impreza) 2h 33m 07s 6 Willie Bonniwell/Kevin Rae (Subaru Impreza) 2h 35m 26s 7 John Cressey/Stan Quirk (BMW MINI Cooper S) 2h 35m 40s 8 David Miller/Andrew Bailey (Subaru Impreza) 2h 38m 01s 9 John Rintoul/Jim Rintoul (Mitsubishi Lancer) 2h 39m 21s 10 Tim Stell/Mike Yates (Subaru Impreza) 2h 39m 46s 13 Tugs Sherrington/Sam Bould (Ford Escort MkII) 2h 40m 18s – 1st Class C 14 Kris Hall/Ella Flynn (Peugeot 205 GTI) 2h 40m 29s – 1st Class B 16 Stuart McQueen/Neil Shanks (Mitsubishi Lancer ) 2h 40m 59s – 1st Group N 29 Ewen MacGillivray/Andrew Falconer (Vauxhall Nova) 2h 46m 23s – 1st Class A Nothing seems to faze him. A change of car the week before the event, a change of co-driver days before the event, no pre-event shakedown and a serious car problem which manifested itself late on Saturday afternoon. It all offered a glimmer of hope to his rivals, but once Neil MacKinnon pulled on the crash hat, it was business as usual. ‘MacKinnon the MacNificent’ not only won the 38th Tunnock’s Tour of Mull Rally, he scored a record–breaking 12th victory on the island Two fastest times over the first two stages gave MacKinnon and Daniel Barritt a 30 second lead after which it was a home run all the way. But on Saturday afternoon, the Subaru started to pressurise its coolant system which led to electronic sensors going off like disco lights on the dash. The McKinstry boys worked on it ready for the final Leg on Saturday night. Even running in ‘safety’ mode no-one was quite sure how the World Rally Car would respond. “I thought there was a glimmer of hope,” said John Cope, “so I turned up the pressure.” Cope did indeed take time out of MacKinnon over the final three stages, but not enough. “I thought it was over myself,” said MacKinnon, “It spat all the water out after Gribun, the second last stage. I thought then that was it, but the McKinstry boys got it going again. There was one thing in our favour though, that final stage route actually suited the car and once I got off that Hill Road I thought the job was on.” MacKinnon’s lead was cut by over a minute over those final stages, but despite heroic efforts it was too much of a gap for Cope and Robert Fagg to close. MacKinnon won again. And there was more to come. Dougi Hall was actually on course to finish runner-up and maybe even give MacKinnon a last-dash run for his money, but the rally’s first rain fell late on Saturday night turning previously dry-ish tarmac into surfaces more akin to a greasy chip pan. Almost matching the speed of light up the Glen, there was no margin for error, and Hall’s Lancer hit an unexpected slurry of mud across the road and skated off. Paul Kirtley did the same, only more violently, but fortunately all four crew members were OK. That prompted the 2300 Club team to stop the stage and route remaining cars through it to take up the fight over Mishnish Lochs where it was even greasier – but forewarned is forearmed James MacGillivray therefore scored a slightly surprised third, but was having to keep an eye on Daniel Harper. After a steady run in the 2.3 MkII, a touch of the ‘Jock the Bull’ red mist was apparent on the Start line at Scridain and brought forth a cheer from drookit onlookers, “I got fed up with pussy-footing it, and I just let go.” James slid his foot off the clutch at near full revs and with tyre smoke and steam coming from the rear, exploded off the start line sideways to the hoots and hollers of marshals and spectators - and even impressed the hell out of John Cope sitting behind him. And didn’t the German sausage tins go well all weekend. Daniel Harper scored an impressive 4th and ‘team-mate’ John Cressey was 8th which prompted MINI driver Ian Dawes to comment, “They must be brain-dead those two!” I couldn’t agree more. Tristan Pye finished a sensible and well controlled 5th while ‘Wild Willie’ Bonniwell was also in sensible mode all weekend scoring not just a finish, but a result with 6th. The unflappable David Miller was 7th ahead of John Rintoul, while Tim Stell rounded off the top ten after welding up his disintegrating inlet manifold. So while fortune favoured the brave, misfortune dogged the tracks of others. Much was expected of Calum Duffy in his new Saturn 10 MkII, but even with the hardest tyres he could find, they went off half way through the first stage. But it was electrics which sidelined rallying’s favourite rocketeer. Similar maladies affected the O’Donnell twins although they might have found a better use for the Escort than trimming the tops off a roadside hedge when they were in full flight! Tony Bardy’s turbocharger failed and John Swinscoe retired when a master cylinder failed causing a rear wheel brake to seize which spat the Lancer off the road leaving a 100 ft single line of rubber on the road for the Rally Rescue crews to follow. And what of young Paul MacKinnon. Lying second, 15 seconds behind ‘The Ol’Man’ at one point, he suffered two punctures in one stage and a third in another leaving him always coming from behind and then a hub broke up. In similar troubles was Denis Biggerstaff. Paddle-shift failure prompted a gearbox change on Friday night and happy again with a ‘proper’ stick shift gearbox, ‘Yer Man’ was on the pace, but road penalties after the gearbox troubles left him too coming from behind. Stuart McQueen won a sterling fight for Group N honours with John Morrison, just 24 seconds separating the twosome after 150 fright miles around these notorious rocky contours. But finishing ahead of these two was one of the big shocks of the night. Young, gifted and good looking, this boy’s got talent oozing out his driving gloves. Kris Hall scored a sensational 14th overall in his class winning ‘old-tech’ Peugeot 205. Ian Chadwick was second in the 1600 class, while Tugs Sherrington won the 2 litre class from Curley Haigh. Another star in the making was young Ewen MacGillivray winning the 1400 class in his Nova from the similar car of Mark Constantine. This was not just a rally, this was yet another epic adventure in the annals of Mull rallying history and thanks are due to an intrepid and hard working crew from 2300 Club, all the other clubs who helped and Marshals who officiated. To all the radio and rescue crews, and ambulances and doctors, a great debt of thanks is due. The good folks of Mull also deserve a huge vote of appreciation for putting up with the disruption that the rally brings each year. Even the Polis were nice and helpful and the Cooncillors too, without whom we couldn’t possibly have this event. Thanks are indeed a two-way appreciation, for the Mull Swimming Pool Committee would like to extend their own thanks to all of you who over the years have supported their fund raising activities. And to reward you all, you can come for a ‘dook’ on the new pool next year. But we must also thank the competitors, service and support crews, families and friends, who all help to make the Tunnock’s Tour of Mull, the best rally in the world. Not only the best, but the tastiest. There is of course one other to whom we all owe a special debt of thanks. For the past three years now we have had dry Tours and things were looking ominous last week, but Friday dawned dry and stayed dry. Saturday was dry too, but for a light sprinkling on Saturday night - I reckon somebody nearly forgot to put the big umbrella in the sky up! Thanks Brian.

this will be our second year spectating at this event very good technical rally well worth going to. HERE IS THE ENTRY LIST. Provisional Entry List - 2007 Tunnock's Tour of Mull(not yet in final seeded order - entry numbers may change before the event) Car Driver Co-driver CarType Capacity Class Turbo 4WD GrpN 1 Neil MacKinnon Mike Stayte Subaru Impreza WRC 2000 D 2 Dougi Hall Andy Richardson Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 2000 D 3 Calum Duffy Iain Duffy Ford Escort Mk2 2400 D 4 John Cope Robert Fagg Subaru Impreza WRC 1998 D 5 Paul Kirtley Jim Kitson Subaru Impreza WRC 1998 D 6 James MacGillivray Ian Fraser Ford Escort Mk2 2300 D 7 Tony Bardy Reg Smith Hyundia Accent WRC 1998 D 8 Denis Biggerstaff Graham Thomson Subaru Impreza WRC 2000 D 9 Paul MacKinnon Andrew Roughead Subaru Impreza N10 1998 D 10 Billy Bird Plug Pulleyn Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 6 2000 D 11 Eddie O'Donnell Jnr Eddie O'Donnell Snr Ford Escort RS 2300 D 12 David Miller Andrew Bailey Subaru Impreza 1998 D 14 John Swinscoe Paula Swinscoe Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 1998 D 15 David Bogie Andy Mort Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 1999 D 16 Daniel Harper Chris Campbell BMW Mini Cooper S 1600 D 17 William Bonniwell Kevin Rae Subaru Impreza Grp A 1996 D 18 Lyndon Barton Johnny Vance Subaru Impreza WRC S8 1998 D 19 Tristan Pye Kirsty Riddick Subaru Impreza N11 1998 D 20 Doug Weir Linda Brown Ford Escort Mk2 1998 C 21 Dave Hopwood Paul Grattidge Ford Escort Mk2 1996 C 22 Pat Johnson Graham Harper Subaru Impreza STI 2000 D 23 Martin Healer Shaun O'Gorman Ford Escort WRC 1997 D 24 John Cressey Stan Quirk BMW Mini Cooper S 1600 D 25 Ian Chadwick PJ O'Dowd Peugeot 106 Mk2 1598 26 George Mcdonald Ian Nicoll Opel Corsa S1600 1600 B 27 Mike Storrar Weazel Currie Ford Anglia 1600 B 28 Stuart McQueen Neil Shanks Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 7 1998 D 29 John Marshall Paul Hughes Subaru Impreza 555 1998 D 30 Barry Renwick Chris Sanderson Subaru Impreza WRC 1994 D 32 Giles Brooksbank Peter Nowell Subaru Impreza 98 WRC 1994 D 33 Tommi Graham Mike Baily Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 1998 D 34 Chris Tooze Jo Tooze Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 1998 D 35 Tugs Sherrington Sam Bould Ford Escort Mk2 1998 C 37 Cameron MacLean Alastair Fraser Ford Escort Mk2 1998 C 38 Paul Daniel Louise Sutherland Ford Escort Mk2 1998 C 39 Ian Dixon Mark Mason Ford Escort RS Cosworth 1993 D 40 Tim Stell Mike Yates Subaru Impreza 2000 D 41 Iain MacKenzie Angus MacKenzie Peugeot 106 Cup Car 1588 B 42 Grum Willcock Donna Harper Opel Manta GTE 1998 C 43 Ian Corkill Howard Allison Ford Escort Mk1 1998 C 44 John Morrison Alistair MacKay Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 1998 D 45 Steve Davies Lesley Hastie Ford Escort Mk3 1998 C 47 Alan Gardiner Robin Nicolson Ford Escort Mk2 1998 C 48 John Paterson Paul Macfadyen Proton Satria 1600 B 49 Robert Davies Mike Goodman ford fiesta st trophy 2000 C 50 Jamie Smith Mark Hemingway Subaru Impreza RS11 1999 D 51 Chris Woodcock Heidi Woodcock Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 6.9 1996 D 52 Robert Mathieson Harry MacLean Talbot Sunbeam 1998 C 53 Carl Tuer Rob Tuer MG ZR Super 1600 1598 B 54 Chris (Curly) Haigh Sally Peacock Ford Escort Mk1 1998 C 55 Ian Woodward Rich Pover Ford Escort Mk2 GAC 1998 C 56 Dave Thwaites Tony Walker Ford Escort Mk2 2400 D 57 Stephen Hall Aggie Foster Triumph TR4 2135 D 58 Steven Ronaldson Michelle Falconer Metro 6R4 2500 D 59 John Woodward Kevin Ikin Ford Escort GAC Mk4 1999 C 60 Alan Kirby Colin Burley Subaru Impreza RA 2000 D 61 John Cowe David O'Brien Ford Escort Mk2 2400 D 62 Lewis Gallagher Bill Roberston Peugeot 205 GTi 1905 C 63 John Rintoul Jim Rintoul Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 6 2000 D 64 Duggie Ingram Olum Mac Crone Austin Mini Mk2 1380 A 65 Alistar Ross Stewart Hurst Ford Escort Mk2 1999 C 66 Ian Forgan Kathryn Forgan Ford Escort RS2000 1999 C 67 Mike Russell Richard Wardle Subaru Impreza 2000 D 68 Christopher Mackenzie Jane Nicol Subaru Impreza GC8 2500 D 69 Sandy Smith Phil Jones Peugeot 205 GTi 1904 C 70 Ian Dawes Gary Dawes BMW Mini Cooper S 1600 D 71 Matthew Tarbutt John Bennett Vauxhall Nova Mk1 1400 A 72 Martin MacLean Archie MacCallum Peugeot 106 1587 B 73 Paul Miller Katy Ma****er Ford Sierra Cosworth 1998 D 74 Chris Paton Dave Cabena Vauxhall Nova 1598 B 75 Alick Kerr Tom Hynd Ford Fiesta ST 2000 C 76 Allan Cameron Angus Williams Subaru Impreza Grp N 1998 D 77 David Stubbs Rick Forster Ford Escort Mk2 2000 C 78 Alan McLaughlin Paul Beaton Ford Puma 1397 A 79 Jonathan Mounsey Drew Sturrock Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 1990 D 80 Paul Marshall Paul Rusted Triumph TR7 V8 3500 D 82 Brian MacLeod Thomas M Watt Ford Escort Mk2 2000 C 83 Grant Fleming Fergus Loudon Ford Escort Mk2 1993 C 84 Graham Brown Ross Laurie Mazda 323 Turbo 1597 D 85 Derek Carless Martin Pettitt Peugeot 205 GTi 1905 C 86 David Calvert Dave Fotheringham Ford Escort Mk2 2000 C 87 Bruce Edawrds Sandy Loynd Darrian T9 1997 C 88 Kris Hall Ella Flynn Peugeot 205 GTi 1580 B 89 Martin Fox Nigel Webster Subaru Impreza WRX ST4 1993 D 90 Donald Brown Snr Alec Brown Talbot Sunbeam 1598 B 91 Stevie Brown Ian Robertson Vauxhall Nova GSi 1598 B 92 Alistair Wilson Susan Brown Ford Escort Mk2 1999 C 93 Murdo Morrison Kerr Beaton Toyota Starlet Cosworth 1996 C 94 Andrew Smith Rowena Hay Peugeot 205 GTi 1906 C 95 Rick Fry Stephen Thompson Subaru Impreza WRX 2000 D 96 Chris Pedley Chris Snr Pedley Suzuki Swift Mk2 1298 A 97 Allan Mackay Fred MacLean Ford Anglia WRC 1558 B 98 John Lloyd Darren Garrod Peugeot 205 GTi 1580 B 99 Mark Constantine Andrew Constantine Vauxhall Corsa 1389 A 100 Gordon Milne Paul Watson Suzuki Swift 1398 A 101 Nick Stamper Steve Rogers Subaru Impreza Grp A 1998 D 102 Pete Gibson David Gibson Vauxhall Nova 1600 1598 B 103 Ewen MacGillivray Andrew Falconer Vauxhall Nova Mk1 1298 A 104 Jim Brindle Paul Whittaker Rover Mini 1380 A 105 Tracey Louise Muir Garry Muir Citroen AX CITE 1360 A 106 David Steggles Mark Hadfield Vauxhall Astra Mk3 1998 C 107 William Langford Thomas Paterson Vauxhall Astra GSi 1998 C 108 Connor Corkill Richard Nelson Ford Escort Mk1 1599 B 109 Jim McDowall Colin Johnstone Talbot Lotus Sunbeam 2200 D 111 Malcolm Davey Paul Slingsby Ford Escort Mk1 1598 B 113 Paul Redford Patrick Daley Vauxhall Corsa 1600 B 114 Stephen Taylor Charlie Chatburn Subaru Impreza RA 1998 D 116 Gavin Johnson Neil Bye Ford Escort Mk2 2380 D 117 Ian Ackroyd Martin Young Ford Escort Mk2 1998 C 118 Haydn Williams Paul Stringer Nissan Micra WRC 1000 A 119 Iain Noble Alan Noble Ford Escort Mk1 1999 C 120 Donald MacColl Kris MacColl Ford Escort Mk2 2000 C 121 Richard Egger Pat Egger Ford Escort MK 1 1998 C 122 Shug Rutherford Roger Lewis Peugeot 205 Rwd 1598 B 123 Kim Baker Phil Peak Peugeot 205 1580 B 124 Dave Dalgliesh Colin Harkness Subaru Impreza STI 1998 D 126 Paul Blackburn Alexis Harper Vauxhall Corsa 1399 A 127 Drew Struthers Jim Johnston Talbot Sunbeam 2000 C 128 Alan Cowan Lock Horsburgh Peugeot 106 XSi 1360 A 129 Mike Kent Colin Stockil Ford Escort Cosworth 1998 D 130 Donna Ingram Chris Nelson Austin Mini 1275 A 131 Louise Thomas Wendy Whittaker Rover Mini Cooper 1380 A 132 Lorn MacFadyen Neil Galbraith Ford Escort Mk2 1998 C 133 Brian MacPhail Kay MacDonald Peugeot 205 GTi 1600 B 134 Norman MacPhail Neil MacVicar Vauxhall Corsa GSi 1600 B 135 Geoffrey Gallagher Angus Milne Peugeot 205 GTi 1905 C 136 David Holland Neil Gater Ford Escort RS Mk2 1998 C 137 Christopher Baker Jamie Reddaway Talbot Samba 1360 A 138 Chris Melling Dave Riley Vauxhall Astra GTE Mk2 1998 C 139 Martin Beech Steve Hallmark Peugeot 205 GTi 1900 C 140 Fergus Gray Martin Jenkins Peugeot 106 Rallye 1360 A 141 Chris Shield Guy Wickham Vauxhall Nova 1396 A 142 Martin ('Ogs') Oglesby Rod ('Noggin') Carter Subaru Legacy rwd Atmo 2212 D 143 Mark Booth Colin Tombs Austin Mini Mk1 1598 B 144 John MacCrone Zak Hancock Vauxhall Corsa 1398 A 146 Martin Page Alan Bennett BMW Mini Cooper S 1598 D 147 Mark (Speedy) Runciman Mark (Haggis) Gilmour Vauxhall Nova GTE 1598 B 148 Bill Lymburn Peter Grant Ford Escort Mk2 2100 D 149 Chris Mills Jeremy Swann Ford Escort Mk2 2001 D 150 Phillip Merrills William Kelly Honda Civic Type R 1998 C 151 James Fairbairns Lewis Drysdale Peugeot 205 GTi 1590 B 152 Ross Hunter Martin Woodcock Peugeot 205 GTi 1600 B 153 Rob Eastwood Martyn Taylor Morris Mini Cooper S 970 A 154 Rod Brereton Cristopher Andrew Renault Clio Williams 1998 C 155 Matty Fox Neil Colls Peugeot 205 GTi 1900 C 156 Gareth Frank Richard Burdon Vauxhall Nova 1300 A 157 Dominic McTear Jason McTear Peugeot 205 GTi 1900 C 158 Stewart Morrison Ian Morrison Ford Escort 1997 C 159 Grant Carbry Susan Fotherinham VW Golf Mk2 1781 C 160 Graeme Sherry Peter Weall Peugeot 205 GTi 1598 B Brian

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Last Updated: Saturday, 15 September 2007, 20:16 GMT 21:16 UK E-mail this to a friend Printable version Copter crash near McRae property The crash happened on the outskirts of Lanark Two people are believed to have died in a helicopter crash near the Lanarkshire home of former World Rally Champion Colin McRae. The helicopter came down at 1610 BST in Jervis Wood, about a mile from Lanark, and is understood to have caught fire. Strathclyde Police said there were no survivors and that no further details about the victims would be released until Sunday. Mr McRae, 39, is known to be a keen helicopter pilot. The Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) said it had been led to believe two people were on board the Squirrel aircraft. The damage has been so bad that we don't know how many people were on board Strathclyde Police spokeswoman However, Strathclyde Police said the helicopter damage was so bad they could not confirm how many were involved. A police statement said: "Around 1610 BST on Saturday, 15 September 2007, emergency services were called to a helicopter crash in Jerviswood, east of the A73 at Lanark. "There are no survivors. "It is not known how many people were on board at this time and there will be no formal identification of anyone on board this evening." The statement added that the air accident investigation team was on its way to Scotland to establish the cause of the crash. The accident happened near Colin McRae's property The Scottish Ambulance Service confirmed that its own helicopter had been despatched to the scene along with three ambulance crews. Strathclyde Fire and Rescue Service also has units in attendance at the scene. The RAF spokesman said the incident did not involve a military aircraft and added that its helicopter was on stand-by to assist. A spokesman for the British Airports Authority said the helicopter did not come from Glasgow or Edinburgh Airports. The Strathclyde Police spokeswoman said officers were trying to establish who was on board and where the helicopter was travelling to and from. "The damage has been so bad that we don't know how many people were on board," she said. "It might be one, it might be more. We just don't know at the moment."

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Congratulation Gav and Yvonne. look forward to all the sleepless nights[{][}][Y] Brian

Thanks for the kind thoughts guys[], really happy now i can get cheap insurance with a company called SAGA [:$],never heard of them before until gus recommended the company[] Brian

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Saturday 2nd June Squirrel (camera man) Higgy (group leader) andywrx Sc00bar00 d19yda Ac!d (if home) Double Zero Ally-b Nanaki scoobymark Tosh32 Gus AlanK thefastone Craig (CR51ALG) Bryhp (possible) Camping Sat night Squirrel andywrx Sc00bar00 Higgy d19yda Ac!d (if home) Double Zero Ally-b Nanaki scoobymark Tosh32 Gus AlanK thefastone Craig (CR51ALG) Bryhp (possible) Sunday 3rd June Squirrel (camera man) Higgy (group leader) Imy (group leader) CYP_rock (group leader) andywrx Sc00bar00 d19yda Ac!d (if home) Double Zero Ally-b Nanaki scoobymark Tosh32 Gus AlanK thefastone Craig (CR51ALG) Bryhp (possible) RS Grant 4hero Sammot Jamis WRX Haz Playsatan Fai 17 and family pugpaul H4AFY ALI_ scoobygav Either, but a one day event only the blue dragon Irish Al Dtabbit77 James M st3ph3n thefastone sorry will not make this now Brian[H]

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