TV speeding adverts

[corsa]

Should we adopt the hard hitting style like the Irish do?

 

I would say yes.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ8oCq8hXps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIx1jbDsTPM&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2_KSEfYlYU&NR=1

[scouk]

Absolutely!!!! The message clearly isn't getting through to drivers in this country!!!

 

More adverts less speed cameras [6] 

[thewelsho]

All too much if you ask me. Besides, speeing isn't even responsible for 10% of accidents. Also, it wasn't speeding so much in the first two adverts, it was carelessness.

[corsa]

Ok then so the thread title was a tad misleading.

 

Does it make you think?

 

yes.

 

Dont understand your "too much" reply John.

[thewelsho]

Just seems a bit harrowing, gory and over the top for TV. It looks like something from a Holywood movie, not real at all. But you're right, I suppose it does make you think, why wouldn't it?

[billyboy]

Ive seen these before well done and hard hitting,and i think similar should be shown here.However,a couple of apprentices in work have passed their tests recently.one of them smashed his punto 3 times in under 6 months (bought by mummy and daddy i might add.spoilt little get).Another one drove into a bus and has first bus white on his front bumper.Another has a 53 plate punto does he give a toss?No.They dont care and they dont take advice.Ive seen them driving home or at lunch time and its frightening.Non of us can say we dont speed but i would like to think that at least we look further than the end of the bonnet.They constantly ask me for permission to drive cars in the yard to which of course "f--- off" is the answer.They just cant get it into their thick skulls why i wont let them drive customers cars.Would you be happy if you knew they were driving your car?

Billy 

[gus the bus]

Just what is needed IMHO. Shook me up looking at those. But its the young to$$ers (like Billy is talking about) that dont give a flying ....... that need shown these adds.

Shows how easy these crashes can happen..............and they do!

 

[billyboy]

Gus you have e-mail mate.

[gus the bus]

  Quote

Gus you have e-mail mate.

Billy, replied twice matey. Did you get them?

Gus

[billyboy]

No i didnt mate.

[gus the bus]

Billy i've sent you an e-mail response. send me your address and i'll get a pair oot tae you.

Gus

PS Payment by Paypal or cheque is fine.

Sorry for the thread hijack[:$] bttt for some hard hitting adds

[imprezapete]

Corsa I agree that it is the bare reality of what happens, but I think it was far to much. I was shocked at it and im a fully grown man, that sort of advert would scar some kid if he saw it by accident. Hell I dont even want to see the other 2 now.

While I agree it drives the point home I think its miss directed as john said, carelessness was the cause of it. My uncle always said to me the faster the car the further down the road you must think ahead cause you tend to do more stupid things cause you think you can.

 

[colzo]

More education and harder penalties for novice drivers are needed.

[scouk]

In fairness. (not to turn back on my previous comments) But I agree that educating drivers from an early age is key.  If you going to advertsise the problems with dangerous/careless driving then yes I believe it does need hard hitting ads like those above. Perhaps even more realistic!

Now with the issues of speed.  I cant remember the exact statistic but I think it is something like over 80% of accidents which are a cause of death or injury take place within the legal speed limit!! []

Speed is an issue yes.  But that's only because lack of skill and downright common sense don't exist to completment it. The 60MPH limit is a max not a target which is what I beleive what many school of motoring places are encouraging, not happy with that.. Just because the limit is 60 doesn't mean that the road is suitable for that, not every corner is safe at 60 not ever car is safe at 60 and certainly not every driver is safe at 60.... What is seen and heard of all to often is young drivers getting egged on by yer mates to go as fast as you can and seek out the thrill off getting the car drifting on bends at 80 odd MPH..  All very well if your a racing driver on a track, but the roads around us are much narrower, and have no safety margin of tyrewalls and gravel traps to slow you down. You go off you hit a tree or another road user.  All for what. A quick thrill! Nah not for me i'm afraid.

 

Education is the key.  No direct offence intended here, but young drivers (under 25's) are at serious risk especially when they get behind the wheel of a high power car.  Ok the car is probably more capable than their 1.4 saxo but do they have the skill to handle the extra speed and perfomance.. Probably not, despite thinking they do!  In saying that What's the first thing most young drivers do when they get behind the wheel?  Yep let see how fast 100mph is.. God knows even I did that, and it scared the poopie out of me once I discovered how long it takes to slow down from that speed..  In this case the scare treatment works.. You realise your being very silly. But this can have the opposite affect.  If you live to tell the tale you'll probably do it again to get that buzz, (bit like drig addiction, never the same again).

I'm a member of the IAM (Institute of Advanced Motorists) and finally even they are starting to see sense.  Dont get me wrong the IAM course is a bloomin good idea and I honestly believe every driver should be forced to take it. And if any of you guys haven't I suggest you do.. Pay £30 (or whatever it is) a year after you passed the test but you save lots on car insurance. I save over £100  just because I'm a member of the IAM. OK so not only do you save money, but you also boost you driving skill by a huge amount. Observation is the main focus point and knowing how to use observation while driving.. What the IAM are in the process of dogn right now are putting together a young driver network consisting of under 30's who are already IAM members and creating a younger version of the IAM as many member are.. erm... older, but the main target should be on younger drivers and that's what they hope to target, by getting young drivers speaking to other young drivers.. Their more likely to listen that way..

 

Ok rant over...

Speed is not the sole issue with road safety, drivers mentality to driving is what the problem is that needs to change.. I honestly believe they should do away with the mobile speed cameras (gatso's are probably worthwhile in genuine blackspot areas) and concentrate on educating drivers at the side of the road instead of writing them a ticket..  Something has gotta be done!!!
 

ok, i'm really done now.. honest.... 

 

Note: The comments above are my own opinions, and I mention "young drivers" in the general sense. Not all young drivers are careless and dangerous, some are very good drivers..  Just thought I'd mention that before I get flamed [6] 

[ANDYJDMSTI]

Good ads!

Less skirting the subject and more hard hitting is the way to go.

[micra_wrc]

that 3rd clip sent shivers down my spine []

agree that perhaps shock tactics may influence people to drive slower but I think we need more than that -  driving lessons should include driving in the dark and on motorways (incl lane management), mandatory attendance at driver-training schools once you've passed your test and perhaps even some way of teaching our learner drivers how to properly control the car if it starts spinning/fishtailing.

there's no use running these adverts if there is no infrastructure in place to educate our drivers. 100% agree with ScoUK. 

We are turning into a culture of 'big brother is watching you' with the computerised DVLA/insurance/tax systems, speed cameras and with more and more cars being controlled by onboard computers, I predict we will soon be a nation where sat nav / cruise control will be the normal way of driving soon.... with very little driving skill needed [8-)]

[imprezapete]

TBH Imy the future will result in seeing Cars automated via computer guidance systems with the likes of radar control the car. While I think I will be lucky to see it in my life time. It will happen in the future, I know of many tests in the likes of the US where they are designing and testing such systems.

 

[thewelsho]

Shock tactics dont work. Look at the sides of fag packets... SMOKING KILLS. Could it be any more shocking? Does it stop people? No. I do agree with the notion that these should be aimed at younger drivers. That is not to say that we older more mature drivers are exempt, but we are much more sensible than the likes of these young muppets who have just passed their test and think they are invincible.

[gordon_macdonald]

I'd have to agree with john that shock tactics don't work and its always a big issue in the motorcycle news

Whats needed is a system that doesn't just teach people (young or old) to pass their driving test. 

We need a system that teaches proper road craft so that we can all be safer when traveling at speed because as soon as

the wheels start turning it wouldn't make any difference to your reaction if a driver kills ur loved one whether they were speeding or not.

U would still want to see justice done.
 

Lets face it a driving licience is a privalage not a right but when u see some of the very poor driving standards on the roads today
it's a wonder  there r not more accidents.

 
I'm no angel,
As a younger driver i was a total hooligan & very lucky not to have killed someone. (3 serious accidents in 3 years[:$]

1 a year from when i passed my test)

 
It took me a long time to realise that using the public highway as my personnel  race track just isn't on.

I still drive hard & fast on public roads but only on roads i know very well and when its quite.

i.e. late at night (after 10pm) & early in the morning (before 7am) thus reducing the risk to other road users.

(I hope) 

Im still learning  all the time and in my opinion its the drivers / riders who think they have finished learning
as soon as they pass their test that r the real danger on the roads.

gordon