craig mac Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Quote Quote You nead more than an open cheque book to build a fast car, and you nead a fair bit of skill to take it down the strip on a timed run to its potential, so a fast cars not much use if you cant drive it. Id imagine most newage cars runing low 12s will have had similer moneys spent on them. Greg has maybe on ran one 12.399 with mostly 12.4s and a few 12.6 runs latly on a fooked cluthc, but he has done it and hats of to him id say[] I still say anyone can drive fast in a straight line Totally agree with you there too Phil[] I LIKE CORNERS ME[6]Especially hairpins CraiG
paddy247 Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Id say anybody can drive fast in a straight line aslo, but thats not what I said! I am refering to the techincal ability lol or ones skills to be able to get the maximum from there car from a standing start on a timed 1/4 mile run. As Wilky says "get it right up ye" lol
philip_wilson Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Quote Id say anybody can drive fast in a straight line aslo, but thats not what I said! I am refering to the techincal ability lol or ones skills to be able to get the maximum from there car from a standing start on a timed 1/4 mile run. As Wilky says "get it right up ye" lol Quote from the film SCARFACE "Why don't you try stickin' jou head up jour ass -- see if it fits" lol [][][] Pheeel[]
st3ph3n Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Quote As Wilky says "get it right up ye" lol I do believe it is "work it" rather than "get it"
paddy247 Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 I believe yer right, "work it right up ye" it is then
~ ~ Cal ~~ Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Pretty sure Jools cars ( JAC) would be a strong contender...........it's packed with RCM bits and is VERY quick. As an overall package I reckon it would be the fastest round KH too..... CGS
ANDYJDMSTI Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Quote Quote As Wilky says "get it right up ye" lol I do believe it is "work it" rather than "get it" oooooooohh.......Mr Pedantic!
colin_ross Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 I know of a local newage that'll well above the current crop that should be ready by the spring. Don't want to say too much and steal the owners thunder but anything less that 500 ain't really gonna cut it any more.
colin_ross Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Nowt to do with me mate. Anyway I prefer kicking it old skool.
ANDYJDMSTI Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Quote Nowt to do with me mate. Anyway I prefer kicking it old skool. You not abit old to be using youngster speak []
colin_ross Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 I'm a bit old for a lot of things but I still do'em anyway []
Gumball Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 wel lcommon sense prevails. you have a 20g and it dynos 403bhp. then you put in a new turbo and the difference is like the difference between the standard and the ppp again. so would you then agree that speculating an increase of 27bhp is an exaggeration on under speculated? you decide as clearly you guys have the answers? or is it jealousy?
ANDYJDMSTI Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 would not say it is jealousy.............more a case of liking to see proof of claims. we all saw what happened to Pete's figures.........alot less than was expected!! Thanks for you time, now get back to you Nazi staffcar! []
RS Grant Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Gumball, did your car not run c360bhp on WP Rollers shortly after that on the same spec though?? If I'm totally honest, I'm not sure about those figures, as I know a guy with an MR2 Turbo that ran the day after you and got 320bhp, then when he took it back at the same spec a month or so later on, he was only running c290bhp... he talked with Dastek and was told that the set-up was wrong and people had been getting quoted higher figures than they should have been. This isnt a dig, I just remember hearing that you didnt get close to 403bhp at a R/R Day up at WP. Cheers, Grant
fai17 Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 Quote would not say it is jealousy.............more a case of liking to see proof of claims. we all saw what happened to Pete's figures.........alot less than was expected!! Thanks for you time, now get back to you Nazi staffcar! [] It will get better one day m8[]
jcscoob Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 Maths time ..... BHP -------- 1/4MILE 360 --------- 12.8 370 --------- 12.6 403 --------- 12.8 [:|]
sma01 Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 430bhp???is that on standard internals? should be interesting seeing them all next year.... scott
sma01 Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 just read the rest of this post, and not going to cause more debate, but i seem to recall gumballs car being up against a standard wr1 and a P1 with a decat and a remap which was putting out about 320bhp(sure P1 sub will correct me on the exact bhp figure) and there was nowt in it. Also at same time went up against my car when it had ecutek and dyno'd 325bhp on dyno dynamics rollers and same thing. To be honest, i dont see any signs of it being a 400bhp car, especially since it was running standard injectors and internals...., it is alot harder than some people make out to get big power out of these cars, i know how much it has taken to get my car this far and it is a lot of time and £ to try and get it right.... scott
Gumball Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 LOL, Thanks for the fishcakes guys. Read it and weep.[] Call Gerry at dastek and ask him for confirmation of the 400mark being broken, lol bye for now...... lol
ANDYJDMSTI Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 Quote Quote would not say it is jealousy.............more a case of liking to see proof of claims. we all saw what happened to Pete's figures.........alot less than was expected!! Thanks for you time, now get back to you Nazi staffcar! [] It will get better one day m8[] am sure it will oh little restaurant man []
craigdmcd Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 Quote LOL, Thanks for the fishcakes guys. Read it and weep.[] Call Gerry at dastek and ask him for confirmation of the 400mark being broken, lol bye for now...... lol No need for that call folks, as I was there the day that Gumball's machine did make 403bhp on the Dastek rollers. Although it has to be said that my 1999 Legacy GT-B did make 310bhp, and the only change from standard that I knew at the time was that for some reason my secondary turbo was spooling up to 1.2 bar instead of 1 bar. Apart from that, I would have a: considered my car to be running slightly sick through the lower rev range & b: I thought that Dastek's rollers were optimistic by 20bhp purely on my results. Horsepower can realistically only be compared one car to another when compared between however many cars on the same day, under the same conditions at the same set of rollers. All I know is that I still have probably the quickest car here (when having to transport a full set of Ikea bedroom furniture in the back at the same time!!!)
rapidcossie Posted October 21, 2006 Posted October 21, 2006 why could a 400 bhp sti not pass or pull away from a 320 bhp one??
WUZ Posted October 21, 2006 Posted October 21, 2006 Gumball - call Gerry then. Better still, lets get him on here and he'll confirm (as he did to 3 certain people, naming no names) that the rollers weren't running accurately that day and ALL CAR (INCLUDING YOURS) were running around 20 bhp over their true figures. You never had 403 M8, SORRY! Gerry will confirm that if you want your bubble burst. Otherwise, let it go. Russell ps - within a 1 week period, my car was R/R'ed by 3 places and the BHP varied from 387 - 430. I know it doesn't have 430 so take an average.
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