bigdavie Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 whatever happened to free speech on the internet i wonder ?
imprezapete Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 whatever happened to free speech on the internet i wonder ? I'm not for or against what the Mods have done here, I just want them to provide a clear line drawn in the sand for SIDC and members t no cross. Free Speech was concept thats never been weather its spoken or written on paper or internet page. Sorry
st3ph3n Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 Pete, when Phil returns I will be seek clarification of what is and isn't acceptable. Personally when someone posts a scooby video and adds sound over the top then I'm annoyed because I'd rather here the car's own soundtrack. Free speach is all well and good but you can't post inflamatory content, copyrighted content, cracks for software etc. etc.
jamie_wood Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 Perhaps the folk who are having trouble coming to terms what Stephen and the others are saying should have a read of the Guide lines for forum users. This was posted on the 3rd of January 2006 by Phil Stephens (SIDC Chairman). I would say that its put across in simple English so there shouldn't be any excuse for anyone to misunderstand the points. If I can follow it , anyone can. Its a pity that the Scottish section cant follow the other "regional areas" and keep it relevant when posting on the sections. Long live the General section!! As posted by Phil ........ " To enhance the quality of the discussion, we ask that you abide by the guidelines outlined in this document when posting messages. Violation of these guidelines will result in a warning being issued, persistent warnings will result in either a permanent or temporary ban. The action that is taken will depend on the severity of the violation. 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drb5 Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 Good reply Jamie. Something i reckon should have been posted long before now, but it still doesn't explain how Loafy was first told it was ok? Who gave him the authority and why has it been ok before now?
wrxmania Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 Only Loafy can answer that - maybe it was asked on a thread and people generally said "go for it". The stuff Jamie posted above has been available the whole time this forum has been running. It is pinned to the top of the general forum. Brian []
rabskyline Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 HI SOOB, how do you know that all the people in the scottish area are scots ?? it is the fact that some people(not necessarily scottish) find this thread locking a problem, so please dont assume that its a scottish problem as this annoys and insults me as a scot ! and if going by the sidc rules you just attached here, your post should be removed for being insulting and offensive ! isnt that right ??? practice what you preach !
micra_wrc Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 rabskyline, i disagree with your post and cant see where Jamie (HI SOOB) said that it was scottish people said they have a problem. If you read his post, Jamie refers to the Scottish section, not Scottish people. I dont see why you find his post insulting or offensive. He copied the forum guidelines that all users should be aware of to illustrate what the guidelines of posting on this forum are. The discussion in this thread is regarding why loafy's thread was locked and I think Jamie's post provides the clearest "line in the sand" as to what is acceptable and whats not.
jamie_wood Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 HI SOOB, how do you know that all the people in the scottish area are scots ?? it is the fact that some people(not necessarily scottish) find this thread locking a problem, so please dont assume that its a scottish problem as this annoys and insults me as a scot ! and if going by the sidc rules you just attached here, your post should be removed for being insulting and offensive ! isnt that right ??? practice what you preach ! Rab, Can you put forward your point a little clearer please? This problem is a Scottish Section Problem as the post was submitted on the Scottish forum. I know that there might be similar issues in the other sections but as I said , this one started in the Scottish section. If we look at the other Regional area sections, they would appear to have more Subaru/Club related discussion than the Scottish one.The "general" section is a better area for dumping the "O/T" posts is it not? Please let me know how the forum guide lines can relate to any comments I have made. If I have offended any Scottish born forum users then I am sorry, but I'm sure I have put it accross that this is not aimed at the Scottish, it is at the Scottish section. I am open to constructive criticism on anything I have said and can take on board any valid comments. I wont start or participate in any kind of on line battle with an individual as I have never had anyone take up any issues face to face with me yet. There's nothing worse than forum users shouting the odds on line with no intention of resolving the issue or learning anything from the discussion. All I was hoping to point out was the fact that Forum rules have been set for quite some time and that I thought it was relatively clear what was and was not suitable content for a post on any of the sections.
rabskyline Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 it looks like a dig to me ! but if it wasnt , then thats fine ! but this is why its an opinion thing as to why threads get locked and not difinitive and the moderators view of the guidelines. i dont think though it is a scottish section problem as there probably has been something like this thread block on other areas to that people have had a problem with too ! i do think moderators have a thankless task and cant please everyone all the time ! they are human and we are all open to mistakes . it doesnt matter what they do as someone will always agree/disagree with their decision. not a job i could do ! ps sorry if i jumped to the wrong assumption !
wrxmania Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 Thanks Rab. As with all forums and postings, it is a matter of interpretation, whether peoples views, interpreting guidleines etc. In the moderators defence I must say that MANY MANY things are let go in the interests of fairness, fun and a sense of balance. It is only when things are stopped when they go too far or are seen to upset other users that people complain. People need to give us a chance. We are forum users like everyone else. Lets' all just get one - this i not real life. Only when we meet each other at events or whatever does it become real life - the keyboard warrior is usually the person who is quite different in real life [] Brian []
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