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gordyN01 · January 15, 2006

Whats peoples opinions on hp and torque id get on my wr1 with remap full decat aps cold air feed and aps top mount ?

also what the benefits using a gems ecu compared too a ecutek remap?

gordy

dipsy · January 15, 2006

Andy forrest remaped a wr1 last year at Awd . The wr1 had been keyed on every panel so people will no the car

jamie_wood · January 15, 2006

A genuine 360bhp/340lbf

just a guestimate going by others results

Johnny50 · January 15, 2006

Would it really be necessary to move to an APS tmic ?

I`m sure the standard one is more than capable of handling circa 360bhp...

Also, i would opt for Ecutek over the Gems, having had a Gems unit before, there was nothing it had (except anti-lag) that would make me spend the extra again.

And i would use Andy.F for definate.

Hope that helps.

gordyN01 · January 15, 2006

well i have the aps lying in house soo i will sell the sti tmic and fit it yes thinki will get andy too doo it just cant justify spending 1500 on the gems

gordy

dan_jess · January 15, 2006

I no the car u mean Dipsy, it was sitting up at knockhill thru the summer, shocking!

imprezapete · January 16, 2006

<< well i have the aps lying in house soo i will sell the sti tmic and fit it yes thinki will get andy too doo it just cant justify spending 1500 on the gems

gordy >>

A lot of people wouldn't recommend Gems anyway, ask a few here about it and they will tell you why. Other good less expensive options open to you.

Also gordy if your selling one of the Intercoolers I would be interested in one, Also the standard STi one is good for 400Bhp. Ask Gumball

jd · January 16, 2006

Have APS cold air, APS 3" decat & APS TMIC on my 04STI & have at present 351bhp & 370lb/ft.

dipsy · January 16, 2006

When i was at Awd getting my classic i had remaped that wr1 i was talking about that was there they had the turbo of for Andy to port wastegate to stop boost spike i think thats what he did to the turbo

jcscoob · January 16, 2006

I would go Ecutek if i was you and plus andy knows them inside out !

Iv seen the keyed WR1 to, not nice

gordyN01 · January 16, 2006

yeah i was talking too the chap with keyed wr1 every panel also tryed too get in door too but coudnt get into it just scum

gordyN01 · January 16, 2006

BTTT

wilky · January 16, 2006

You would only see about another 20/ 25 bhp, however, uncle Andrew would work wonders with your torque...........

fai17 · January 16, 2006

Well...being the only few on here with a GEMS on a NEWAGE,this is what i have to say.

I love my GEMS ECU because of a few things.

1. The processing on the ECU is quicker than the standard ECU which gives you faster spool up and loads of TORQUE but i haven't had it rolling road yet so i don't know the figures.

2. It's able to run spot on with the fueling so i don't need to uprate the injectors(i think)

3. It pops and bang and shoots flames like no other car on Scottish Scoobies that i know of.

4. Being able to run ANTILAG and LAUNCH CONTROL.

5. Having the advantage to take all the mods off to sell when you get a new car because you still have a STANDARd ECU to put back on.

6. Being able to run more boost than an ECUTEK map.

But there is couple of issue with the GEMS that you need to know before you get one like.

1. Trying to get a good mapper is quite hard to come by.

2. The antilag is still not active on my newage yet.

3. Cold start can be a problem but mines has been fixed by my mapper.

4. Hot start can be a problem too but which i don't have.

5. Some famous mappers are not as good as they claim or you've read off.

6. They are expensive but you can sell your GEMS ECU when you sell your car which you can't do with an ECUTEK.

So for your own sake try to get a drive in a car with a ANDY F ECUTEK MAP and a proper GEMS MAP.

Then make your own mind up.

These are my personal thoughts as i may be wrong on some issues.

sma01 · January 16, 2006

personally mate i wouldnt go for ecutek on your car, noticed a massive improvement in my car since changing from ecutek to the gems and reckon it is definitely worth the ££, just wish i had gone for it a lot earlier as the car is running much better now....

scott

fai17 · January 16, 2006

<< personally mate i wouldnt go for ecutek on your car, noticed a massive improvement in my car since changing from ecutek to the gems and reckon it is definitely worth the ££, just wish i had gone for it a lot earlier as the car is running much better now....

scott >>

Is that all you have to say about the GEMS???

sma01 · January 16, 2006

think you managed to cover most bits pretty well Peter.....

sma01 · January 16, 2006

u still not had your anti-lag set up??when mine was being mapped the anti lag didnt take long to set up, and that included the switch inside the car for it

scott

fai17 · January 16, 2006

<< u still not had your anti-lag set up??when mine was being mapped the anti lag didnt take long to set up, and that included the switch inside the car for it

scott >>

I don't know what the problem is with the antilag and my car..

sma01 · January 16, 2006

u had him back to look at it? i was asking about anti lad while mine was being mapped and he said it was pretty straight forward to install...and it didnt take him all that long to do

scott

fai17 · January 16, 2006

<< u had him back to look at it? i was asking about anti lad while mine was being mapped and he said it was pretty straight forward to install...and it didnt take him all that long to do

scott >>

Did you know that the proper antilag should be ran off the vacuum from your engine which means no brakes when you approach a corner on the brakes so my mapper was trying to work rounds this so i can get the effect from antilag at standstill and driving on track.He'll look at it again next time he's up tho.

sma01 · January 16, 2006

i dont use it very often, only occassionally when accelerating up through the gears, dont normally leave it on once its in full flow or coming to corners

Johnny50 · January 16, 2006

Just to add, my Gems was on a classic (my98) so i cant comment on running on a newage, as the newer ecu has more functions than the one i had.

But even then,

Cold start was a nightmare, hot start was a nightmare. Idle would vary, boost would sometimes not hit target, and then othertimes go way over target...

Yes, you get lots of pops/bangs/flames...But not worth paying the extra money, and having the extra hassle just for that.

Although, mine was only ever mapped by one mapper.

As for Anti-lag, it worked extremely well on my car, never once had an issue when braking.

fai17 · January 17, 2006

<< Just to add, my Gems was on a classic (my98) so i cant comment on running on a newage, as the newer ecu has more functions than the one i had.

But even then,

Cold start was a nightmare, hot start was a nightmare. Idle would vary, boost would sometimes not hit target, and then othertimes go way over target...

Yes, you get lots of pops/bangs/flames...But not worth paying the extra money, and having the extra hassle just for that.

Although, mine was only ever mapped by one mapper.

As you said m8 you can was only mapped by one mapper.

What if your car was mapped perfectly...would you be happy with it then?

With no hot or cold start issues..would you be happier still?

So give the GEMS ECU a chance and it can perform.

As for Anti-lag, it worked extremely well on my car, never once had an issue when braking. >>

I recon the mapper done it different on some cars.

Just ask Squirrell about ANTILAG things

jamie_wood · January 17, 2006

Scott, Peter,

Where is the injector for the anti lag fitted on your cars?

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