Induction Kit Vs Cai

[mctwistuk]

Ok I know it is not essential for level of power mods I am looking at but I think that they sound good so question is what is better and what make etc would you recommend?

Looking at sportcat down pipe and not decat. Or is it better to keep std air box and good panel filter?.

Cheers

Chris

Edited March 8, 2013 by mctwistuk

[monsterenergy]

I guess it depends on what else ye could be spending yer money on to maximise yer bang for yer buck... but they do sound great.

A panel filter is good for up to 390bhp according to AFP below:

Performance Mods Linky

[mctwistuk]

Standard airbox is what Andy recommends. Maybe go for cai or induction cone if I ever fit a bigger turbo

[fai17]

It's down to personal taste and money.

[mctwistuk]

i did some research and as far as i can tell the cai is a better route as the induction kit can cause issues but then people have managed to modify the kits and have had no issues.

I then read about keeping standard airbox and taking out the big palstic resonator box in the wing whioh gives a bit of induction noise but it looks as though this reduces performance.

I forgot how confucing and conflicting modding was lol.

[fai17]

Do you want a cai?

If so get it bought.

Simples.

[mctwistuk]

Well for cai what makes are good these days?

Does anyone run just an induction kit on stage1/2 modifications? If so what make?

Cheers

[beefoss]

Do you want a cai?

If so get it bought.

Simples.

What he says.

If you think you can use the extra cash elsewhere then stick with a performance panel Filter and STD airbox. I've got the AEM CAIK that fits in the wing.

Negative points - Cost +£200, Nowhere to attach the 2 coolant hoses that clipped neatly to std airbox, in uber wet weather and floods you wince at any puddles thinking your filter will drown.

Plus points - looks shiny in engine bay, adds a nice induction noise and looks shiny in engine bay.

If I could do it again I'd spend the cash on a rear strutbrace and some uprated springs.

My mapper said the standard airbox is good to in excess of 400 brake. Hope this helps.

[mctwistuk]

Well narrowed it down to keep standard airbox or cai. Induction kit apparently causes issues with maf.

Chris

[scoobywho]

I went with the hks hybrid panel filter from graham goode racing thats quite good

[fai17]

The APS cai was one of the best ones I've seen.

But I don't think they make them anymore!

[lewisscoob]

Well narrowed it down to keep standard airbox or cai. Induction kit apparently causes issues with maf.

Chris

Purely out of interest, where have you read that?

If induction does cause issues with MAF, that rules out CAI too then, since the I is for Induction?

I'm no expert on the matter but I would suggest that there are going to be more issues for a MAF with a CAIK over an engine bay induction kit. Mostly due to a less restrictive air flow path allowing higher air velocity and also due to drawing air from the inner wing where there is more chance of drawing in water and dirt.

There is a lot of scaremongering over IK's whether CA or engine bay, mostly down to people throwing bits on their car and expecting the ECU to know what they've done and for it to account for the mods without getting an AFR etc checked out. Since it appears you are planning a remap (from other threads) then this shouldn't be an issue.

Have you been in other cars with CAIK or IK's fitted for a drive to see if you like the induction noise they create?

[mctwistuk]

It is something to do with air turbulence and the cai kits aren't as prone to this issue. Forgive me again for mentioning scoobynet but there are a lot of good posts on there about this.

I had an aps cai on my last scoob and it was a very nice piece of kit. I was toying with induction kit this time due to our weather etc. most builds you see these days use induction kits instead of cai.

Chris

[fai17]

It is something to do with air turbulence and the cai kits aren't as prone to this issue. Forgive me again for mentioning scoobynet but there are a lot of good posts on there about this.

I had an aps cai on my last scoob and it was a very nice piece of kit. I was toying with induction kit this time due to our weather etc. most builds you see these days use induction kits instead of cai.

Chris

On big builds cars there is limited space for the huge filter to sit in the inner wing hence why you tend to see induction kits being used.

AF prefers cai and is proven with his mapping.

I've ran both cai and ik with no issues when mapped correctly.

It's purely what you fancy. 10 horses here or there won't make a huge difference on the road and won't suddenly make you a 1/4 mile hero.

Edited March 17, 2013 by fai 17