Wee Jock Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Please find below a list of dates, times & places for the up and coming fuel protests! Is this als something that the SIDC could be involved with? january 22 2011 10 AM Location Coryton Oil Refinery The Manorway Stanford le Hope, United Kingdom More Info Essex SS17 9LL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, February 5 · 8:00am - 10:30pm Location Uk More Info Dundee (Camperdown) Oil Refinery - DD1 3LG Grangemouth Oil Refinery - FK3 9XQ North Tees Oil Refinery - TS6 8JE Killingholme, Grimbsy - DN40 3LW South Killingholme - DN40 3DW Eastham Oil Refinery, South Wirral - L65 1AJ Stanlow (Shell) South Wirral L65 4HB Milford Haven - Milford Haven Dyfed SA73 3JD Pembroke (Texaco) - Pembroke Dyfed SA71 5SJ Coryton (BP) Stanford-le-Hope Essex SS17 9LL Fawley (Esso) SouthamptonHants SO45 1TX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, February 19 · 11:30am - 4:00pm go slow in to london Location Clacket Lane Service Station Between Junction 5 - 6 clockwise M25 I urge everyone to do something take part in the protests, sign the online petitions. Wee Jock
paul555sti Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 If this is from facebook then there were only 59 folk signed up and they were dotted all over the country! I just hope i am not working on the 5th or i might never get to work lol
trogg Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 What's the protest about and why is it targeted at oil refineries?
paul555sti Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 What's the protest about and why is it targeted at oil refineries? I would imagine its about the rising fuel prices and they think by blocking the refineries for a day that its going to make the prices come down. ( never going to happen )
Chris180883 Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Maybe so but something needs to be done this country is just ripping the piss even more than they have been every time you go to the pumps it's went up in price Think about this say it was 1p for each text msg sent in the uk that went to government how much revenue would that generate you do the maths! Instead of raping motorists How long before were all having to resort to driving electric toasters. The amount of times this countries coughed up money to help out other countries issues then go oh were skint now hey let's rape the tax payer meh ****ing ram it government pricks I'm emigrating Rant over
trogg Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 I would imagine its about the rising fuel prices and they think by blocking the refineries for a day that its going to make the prices come down. ( never going to happen ) I presumed it was about fule costs, but I don't get why blocking a refinery for a few hours is going to do much good. If no fuel can get out than that will affect everyone, and that generally ends up hurting the actual campaign. The main cost of fuel is the taxes that are added to it by the government, not the cost of the fuel leaving the refinery (approx 50p per ltr) The protest should be aimed at the government, so maybe protest at the various parliaments in the UK or a different more specific withholding of tax or similar. IMHO
billyboy Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Take off all the fuel tax and petrol is not expensive.Its all the holes who put the tax on that make it expensive.Its going to be a long and expensive five years with Cameron and co in charge.Not that labour could do any better tho.
paul555sti Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Trogg I totally agree with you! Blockading the refinery for a day will achieve nothing! They also changed the laws after the last time to make this illegal.
paul555sti Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Jock the refinery has plenty of storage tanks, so a one day blockade will have little or no effect and as Billy mentioned more than 50% of the cost of our petrol is tax! They will need to come up with other ideas that have greater effects!
Wee Jock Posted January 16, 2011 Author Posted January 16, 2011 Jock the refinery has plenty of storage tanks, so a one day blockade will have little or no effect and as Billy mentioned more than 50% of the cost of our petrol is tax! They will need to come up with other ideas that have greater effects! Tax on fuel is 68% - 70%. Unfortunately you have to start your protests somewhere, over 90% of fuel enters GB through Scotland, why is fuel therefore cheaper in London when you have to transport it there? What the protests will do is generate publicity to maximum effect as it will be national news. The price of petrol on the highlands and Islands is shocking, Im sure there are a few on here that will testify to that. What are you paying now £1.30 + ltr/ another rise on the horizion, how long will it be before its £1.50 upwards. My wife and I are currently paying £970 yr car tax and we are each paying approx £70 week in petrol or diesel. Thats £8k a year. Then you Have servicing costs etc on top. Its getting to the point where I would be better off staying at home on the Dole! Wee Jock
trogg Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Its getting to the point where I would be better off staying at home on the Dole! Or buying a car you can afford to run. But I agree with many of the points you make, but I'm not so sure that 90% of UK fuel comes into Scotland (if you mean from Scottish waters in the North Sea) Supply and demand and competition will obviouslly have an affect on the price of fuel, hence the reason it is more expensive in remote areas. I suppose one solution to that problem would be to nationalise the supply of fuel and then have the price fixed at a maximum level. Other option might be the one being discussed in the news recently of a fuel price stabiliser and/or the remote areas stabiliser. Blocking refineries for one day will have little or zero affect on the supply of fuel, especially if it is announced in advance, all the stations will stock up! You may get media coverage but it wont do anything.
Wee Jock Posted January 17, 2011 Author Posted January 17, 2011 Or buying a car you can afford to run. But I agree with many of the points you make, but I'm not so sure that 90% of UK fuel comes into Scotland (if you mean from Scottish waters in the North Sea) Supply and demand and competition will obviouslly have an affect on the price of fuel, hence the reason it is more expensive in remote areas. I suppose one solution to that problem would be to nationalise the supply of fuel and then have the price fixed at a maximum level. Other option might be the one being discussed in the news recently of a fuel price stabiliser and/or the remote areas stabiliser. Blocking refineries for one day will have little or zero affect on the supply of fuel, especially if it is announced in advance, all the stations will stock up! You may get media coverage but it wont do anything. How about scraping the vat? We in this country are just getting the preverbial ripped out us, Vat was a tax introduced by the Torries many moons ago a bit like the Poll Tax! I am currently a self employed Electrician, living in Kilcreggan during the winter you need a 4x4 to get about even when its raining a 4x4 is best, I need the space for my tools and equipment, therefore my 4X4 jeep is a necessity. The Price of petrol no matter where you are should be the same, why is it when your local garge buys his petrol 6 months ago at for talking sake a £1 litre his tanks are stil half full, oil prices go up they then decide to add that cost on to you for petrol they bought at a pound. Ok when they get their next delivery and they pay more thats when they should be passing on the costs. So again being ripped off. I understand that blocking the refineries doesnt do anything apart from annoyance value, but what do you do? Fuel Price Stabiliser is not the answer especially when prices are so high, remember 70% of the cost of petrol is tax! So cost of a litre £1.30 70% of £1.30 = £0.91 We are paying for Bankers Gross Miscounduct while they award themselves £2million in bonuses. Just my opinion, if we continue to sit about and do nothing none of us will be runing around in our Scoobys!
paul555sti Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 We are screwed in this country and I can't see it improving for a long time! My classic has been tucked away for over a year now and to be honest I don't see it going back on the road anytime soon! I am enjoying not paying the tax / insurance / fuel and having a bit spare cash.
trogg Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 How about scraping the vat? Just the vat on fule or all vat? It's the other taxes on fuel that are the main cost, not really the vat. I am currently a self employed Electrician, living in Kilcreggan during the winter you need a 4x4 to get about even when its raining a 4x4 is best, I need the space for my tools and equipment, therefore my 4X4 jeep is a necessity. Don't believe that, I managed fine working for years at Coulport, staying in Kilcreggan, driving a Transit (RWD) in all weathers. It's not as if you get lots of snow that lies all winter. The Price of petrol no matter where you are should be the same, why is it when your local garge buys his petrol 6 months ago at for talking sake a £1 litre his tanks are stil half full, oil prices go up they then decide to add that cost on to you for petrol they bought at a pound. Ok when they get their next delivery and they pay more thats when they should be passing on the costs. So again being ripped off. I don't see any government in the UK nationalising the supply of fuel and setting the price nationally. It just won't happen. I wouldn't want to use 6 month old petrol in any car never mind my scoob! I understand that blocking the refineries doesnt do anything apart from annoyance value, but what do you do? Fuel Price Stabiliser is not the answer especially when prices are so high, remember 70% of the cost of petrol is tax! So cost of a litre £1.30 70% of £1.30 = £0.91 I don't know what to do, but since we all agree that blocking refineries won't work, and the major part of the cost of a litre of fuel is tax, then a protest at the government fuel tax policies seems like the most obvious. What price for a litre of petrol should we pay, remembering that part of the reason for the taxes is to make it expensive, to encourage drivers to use more economical cars and reduce CO2 Levels ( ) We are paying for Bankers Gross Miscounduct while they award themselves £2million in bonuses. No we are paying for the previous governments gross misconduct and poor management of the countries economy. The banks are paying back what they owe, and the government will make a profit when they come to sell the shares they own, if they manage to do that right.
Wee Jock Posted January 17, 2011 Author Posted January 17, 2011 Just the vat on fule or all vat? It's the other taxes on fuel that are the main cost, not really the vat. Vat is 20% almost a third! Don't believe that, I managed fine working for years at Coulport, staying in Kilcreggan, driving a Transit (RWD) in all weathers. It's not as if you get lots of snow that lies all winter. Yup but you werent working in Glasgow with, access Rds closed, Haul Rd closed due to snow. (You were only going 4miles) Think youll find theres been a lot more snow these days than your time round here! Its been laying until it has been washed away, why is that.......no gritters! I don't see any government in the UK nationalising the supply of fuel and setting the price nationally. It just won't happen. Mibees not I wouldn't want to use 6 month old petrol in any car never mind my scoob! Your just taking the pish now...... you know waht I mean! I don't know what to do, but since we all agree that blocking refineries won't work, and the major part of the cost of a litre of fuel is tax, then a protest at the government fuel tax policies seems like the most obvious. What price for a litre of petrol should we pay, remembering that part of the reason for the taxes is to make it expensive, to encourage drivers to use more economical cars and reduce CO2 Levels ( ) No wonder your rolling your eyes..... nearly bit! No we are paying for the previous governments gross misconduct and poor management of the countries economy. The banks are paying back what they owe, and the government will make a profit when they come to sell the shares they own, if they manage to do that right. Sorry the economic crisis was caused by the banks and it started in the US, they are just greedy barstewards! As for the previous government I was better off under them!
Wee Jock Posted January 17, 2011 Author Posted January 17, 2011 Take it all back petrol is dearer in London! http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/17012011/36/pound-192-tank-petrol-0.html
david_taylor Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 I thought the proposed blockages were being proposed by the Unions in relation to pay and pensions, or am I thinking of another or different planned blockage. I agree that the price of fuel is rediculous and something needs to be done to help the motorist out, however I am so sick of these unions constantly seeing disadvantaging the public as a way of negoatiating with the companies. Fuel, public transport, airports, etc. Its high time that the goverment come down hard on these unions. Do you know that they dont even need to have a minimun of 50% of there members vote to call a strike! Mental. Rant over!
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