Ovv Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 WUZ said: Only ones I have with me right now (in India) are the ones below: Spec D is STi with extras - Leather seats, Sat Nav (pointless piece of kit, took mine out), Foglights Mine has Roof Spoiler and Prodrive Rear spoiler (GB270-type) which weren't on Spec D Those rims look awesome
Ovv Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 Mystery Machine said: I would say "Hawkeye all the way", but then I am biased However, if you do decide do go for a Blob, make sure it's one of the later ones - well within your budget and the later Blob STIs have the following over the earlier ones: DCCD - effectively allows you to control the front/rear torque split, to a degree Wheels have larger 114.3 PCD Wheels are wider Hubs are larger Wider track Longer wheelbase Retuned suspension geometry Retuned spring and damper rates Aluminium rear lateral links Bigger anti-roll bars Cannon mount-type on steering gearbox Steering kickback damper Front limited-slip differential is now helical type Yaw rate sensor I'm not sure exactly where the transition took place (54 plate?), but you can tell a newer Blob STI by the slight flaring of the rear wheel arches (the Hawkeye STIs all have the flared arches). The Hawkeye has these features over the late Blob (apart from the obvious restylings): 2.5L engine - broader & flatter torque curve, but cast pistons - perhaps less suitable for large performance upgrades than the 2.0L's forged pistons? (seem to be OK for at least 340bhp, based on anecdotal evidence! Welsho - how much were you pushing when yours went 'pop'?). Gear ratios - taller to suit the 2.5L, but still quite 'short' in the big scheme of things - matched perfectly to the engine IMO! F/R torque split is now 41:59 - was 35:65 in the Blob, but DCCD will hold a rear bias for longer than before (that's in 'Auto' mode - you can go permanent 41:59 in 'Manual' mode ) Xenon headlamps - these perform brilliantly, but I've heard they're expensive to rebulb Aluminium bonnet (lighter, but not sure if the overall car's any lighter) Roof spoiler There may be other differences, but that's all that springs to mind... So I wouldn't rule out a Blob - in fact, aesthetics & engine aside, most of the important mechanical changes actually occurred between 'early Blob STI' and 'late Blob STI'. Also, for whatever reason, the 2.5s just don't have the same sweet burble as the 2.0Ls The prospect of having a newer car, 2.5L engine and the looks were enough to swing it to Hawkeye for me, but YMMV Cheers. Cheers for that info, thanks for taking the time to list all the blob spec and the difference between them and the hawkeye. I think it will all boil down to budget and the Mrs.
mystery machine Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 (edited) Ovv said: Cheers for that info, thanks for taking the time to list all the blob spec and the difference between them and the hawkeye. I think it will all boil down to budget and the Mrs. You're very welcome. It's all info I've gleaned from various reviews over time - although there may be other items that I've missed Regarding road tax - if the vehicle was first registered before 23 March 2006 (i.e. 55-reg or early 06-reg), then you will pay £245 a year for the pleasure of driving on Her Majesty's crumbling highways... Happy hunting! Edit: Corrected road tax price. Edited January 21, 2010 by Mystery Machine
mystery machine Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Dipsy said: This year road tax is £245 a year for before 23 March 2006 it went up in last years budget Thanks for correcting that - looks like the info on the government website is out of date! Ovv - 23 March 2006 is still the registration cutoff date for 'cheaper' road tax
b4z Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 a always thought the dccd was an option on the blob a could be wrong becuse am tryin 2 figure out if my 04 plate blob is the changed model. sorry 2 jump in like this
05WRX Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Ovv said: Funny you should mention that, I passed there yesterday but didnt have time to stop, heading over that way again on friday, but from the website they look a tad expensive. the blob is 54 plate £11.5k with 48k on the clock, hawkeye is 06 plate £14.5 with 38k - although Im thinking there would be some sort of warranty being from an actual dealer. Got my Scoob from Ecosse a few months back. A 2005 Blobeye with 20.000 on the clock was only £10.495 but i got mine for a bit less than that. Can't fault them and if you haggle you will get a scoob for a good price.
Ovv Posted January 22, 2010 Author Posted January 22, 2010 Dipsy said: Performance comes at a cost .To me they are good prices . 06 that is now gone was certainly on target, but Ive seen better blobs with less mileage advertised on Autotrader. 47k on a 54plate scoob seems rather high for the money they are asking. Autoecosse do seem nice enough, the 07 plate was well priced I thought, if you have that sort of money.
sti_steve Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 Get an early Blob, low mileage, fsh, 3-5k cheaper than hawks, money to mod, money to keep wife happy and % wise will hold its value better than the hawk because it's cheap just now and can't get too much cheaper in the long term tbh. Correct me if i'm wrong people!
lupuss Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 Well I recon I've lost about £12-13k off the value of my 06 hawk WRX in 4 years, so it can't depreciate much faster now... I blame the Government, price of petrol, and insurance companies!... actually just blame the greedy, car hating, speed hating and (probably...) scoobe hating government... Bet they all have Evo's on the quiet ...rant over... lup
sti_steve Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 I work in the Scottish Government. I had a scooby and it raised a few eyebrows at security! - Probably didn't like my scoob when they are promoting "Greener Scotland"
lupuss Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 sti_steve said: I work in the Scottish Government. I had a scooby and it raised a few eyebrows at security! - Probably didn't like my scoob when they are promoting "Greener Scotland" lol.... I bet they didn't... Hope it's been de-cated for good measure.... lup.
sti_steve Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 lupuss said: lol.... I bet they didn't... Hope it's been de-cated for good measure.... lup. Straight through my friend, straight through
lupuss Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 sti_steve said: Straight through my friend, straight through That's the spirit!!!.....
sti pretender Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 Mystery Machine said: Also, for whatever reason, the 2.5s just don't have the same sweet burble as the 2.0s Equal length headers reduced the burble.
lupuss Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 STI Pretender said: Equal length headers reduced the burble. Yes you're right, they changed them on the Hawkeye... I have to say when I bought my Hawkeye I was a bit disappointed in the exhaust sound (or lack of sound...) A Prodrive BB, straight through CC and decat helped bring it back though... The size of the standard BB was massive!... But I guess it's still not quite as good as a blob... Good enough for me though and swmbo is kept happy...
sti_steve Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 lupuss said: The size of the standard BB was massive!... and really heavy!
StrikE Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 sti_steve said: and really heavy! YES surprisingly very much so!
Ovv Posted January 22, 2010 Author Posted January 22, 2010 (edited) sti_steve said: Get an early Blob, low mileage, fsh, 3-5k cheaper than hawks, money to mod, money to keep wife happy and % wise will hold its value better than the hawk because it's cheap just now and can't get too much cheaper in the long term tbh.Correct me if i'm wrong people! That might be the way I go to be honest, purely cos of finances - although I did spy a hawkeye from an indy dealer for the price of decent blob. Not been to or contacted any other Scottish dealers yet apart from Ecosse, seen quite a few nice looking blobs from Graham Walker Ltd, fair trek from me though. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/adv...amp;logcode=emf or the black one with the straight thru milltek, for £11994. ... burble is important... Edited January 22, 2010 by Ovv
mystery machine Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 (edited) sti_steve said: Get an early Blob Ovv said: That might be the way I go to be honesthttp://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/adv...amp;logcode=emf The Blob in your advert is the later revision of Blob STI - the flared rear arches being the giveaway Edited January 22, 2010 by Mystery Machine
mystery machine Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 STI Pretender said: Equal length headers reduced the burble. lupuss said: Yes you're right, they changed them on the Hawkeye... Aye, I've seen that same info repeated on various forums... ... and I've also read posts that vehemently refute these claims, stating that the equal headers are used only on JDM cars to complement the twin scroll turbo If anyone has any hard evidence to back-up either theory, then I sure would be interested in reading it
mystery machine Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 (edited) Dipsy said: Performance comes at a cost .To me they are good prices . I have to disagree, certainly on the price of the Hawkeye - 06-plate, 38K miles and they want £14.5K? I bought my Hawkeye STI last summer, also from a Scooby franchised dealer - late 56-plate, 11K miles - £16K. It was therefore effectively a year newer than the above when purchased, and had the manufacturer's warranty extended to 1 year. They gave me 1K above book price for my trade-in (the usual phoney sales incentive ), so I reckon the car could've been had for around £15K cash. Unless they're willing to knock a good chunk off that asking price, I wouldn't bother with that one. JMO... Edited January 22, 2010 by Mystery Machine
Melly-Doo Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 If you have heard my hawkeye with the nur spec r fitted you will be under no illusion that it has unequal length manifolds as standard. Burbles like the best of them. Cheers Melly
mystery machine Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 Dipsy said: http://www.tsl-motorsport.co.uk/newsite/pr...&detail=122 .This is all i could find how equal length headers work Interesting, thanks for posting
mystery machine Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 Melly-Doo said: If you have heard my hawkeye with the nur spec r fitted you will be under no illusion that it has unequal length manifolds as standard. Burbles like the best of them.Cheers Melly Cool
scoobyseller555 Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 the difference between 2.0 and 2.5 isn't headers but exhaust gas recirculation,the prices that you are seeing are bang on the money as in the current climate with a total lack of stock it is helping the prices stay inflated,if anything the cars are worth more now than they were a year ago January. If it was my choice i would go for either a dccd sti9 or a WR1,both cars very capable still with the de-airbag'd seats,and saving £3-4000 over a hawkeye sti10,the WR1 is likely to hold its value better also. Gav
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