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Tescos normally put on 10% for enhancements less than 15% in power. £270 sounds like they are taking the piss.

Best to suspend or leave running if you know you're getting another car. They can stuff around with your NCB when you cancel early. I got done a few years back. Had to change companies to get my NCB back.

I think you mean ScoobyNet outcast trouble makers.

Sadly the Police don't have time to act on every first off email. They need you to get it to a point where they don't have to do anything. There is no money in it for them. Unlike a speed camera.

My final letter to the person outside the UK trying a similar scam when selling my car. I followed, knowing it was a scam from the start, and had one person here in the UK sentenced for being an accomplice to fraud. I did it because these people piss me off and I decided to have a go back for a change. Here's his first letter. ___________________________________________________________ Hello, I am highly interested in buying your ST205 GT4 - 'M' reg car with its present condition considered to be o k by me,i'll appreciate it if you can contact my client in u k who is going to make the payment directly to you because i want this car and i don't want encourage any delay in this transaction by sending you a cheque from (AFRICA) as this will take a longer period of time before it clears your bank (FOREIGN CHEQUE)so i've decided that my client in U.K should make the payment directly to you to EXPEDITE the payment and shipping arrangements which will be catered for by myself through my shipping agent. Send your full name and contact address including your phone # to which the cheque will be recieved. You can reach my client which i've already contacted about this transaction to send an email to you but he will be expecting your email before he can proceed on the transaction. His name is: MR. KAY BENSON (C.E.O.)KAYBEE AUTOS INC. email :robertbutkin@netscape.net Waiting for your immediate response. Regards. Williams. ___________________________________________________________ Knowing many people from S.A. I quickly confirmed that Kaybee Autos is actually a real company. He is just using their name. At least he did some research as opposed to having an inland harbour. My response. ___________________________________________________________ >> >Hello, >> > >> >Below is a rather unusual email I've received. >> > >> >I do have the car for sale but rather than give out an address due to the >> >email account being used being a non secure one and the names not all matching >>please >> >find attached my phone number I can be contacted on. Rather be safe than >> >sorry. I have included a work not home address. >> > >> >Work details are: Edited out >> >Work phone: >> >Mobile: >> >Regards, >> > >> >Glen ___________________________________________________________ Then this from the UK based guy. ___________________________________________________________ I really appreciate your response,Mr.williams has already contacted me concerning this precise transaction he's one of my client located in africa but do not be bother so much everything is fine.I'll be sending the payment of the vehicle.I have promised to refund part of Mr.Williams money that I'm owing him via this transaction because I'll leaving the town very soon with my business associates to the far Eastern Country for business trasaction.So I'll be send a check in a amount worth of £8,700 but I do not know the actual price of the vehicle but I will be leaving soon,cause I have limited time now.So send your contact information including your phone # in which you can receive the check.Pls contact Mr.Williams for further development. Sincerely. Robert. ___________________________________________________________ Then this. ___________________________________________________________ Glen, Thanks for the enquiries,I will be sending a certified cashier's check to you in amount worth of £10,000.The check will get toyou and to the address you've provide and respond asap you rdcive the check. Regards. Robert. ___________________________________________________________ A few more emails about the price being more than I was asking and so forth. Anyway, after agreeing to send the shipping costs on, yeah right, a cheque arrives. The guy sent the cheque FedEx to make it look proper but he had it picked up from his own home, Not a smart man. The cheque is made out for a different amount than the wording. Wording said Ten thousand but the numbers said £100,000. The cheque was a real one, issued by Newport Council. I phoned them straight away and found the cheque was a benefit cheque made out for £200. To the guy I had convicted would you believe. The cheque would have cleared until the end of the month. They have the cheque arrive on the first working day of the month so you can cash it and the error is not picked up for a few weeks. The accounts they use have vast volumes of cash going through. Then a phone call from the guy within 20 minutes of the cheque arriving. I let it go to answer phone. Then a couple emails later. ___________________________________________________________ From: robertbutkin@netscape.net To: dosenoffner@hotmail.com ("Glen Stenhouse") Subject: Shipper's Bill... Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:31:57 -0400 Hello Glen, My client contacted me that the check has been delivered to you today and I want this transaction concluded on time because the shipping agent has scheduled to leave Africa for U.K soonest and I want to avoid the shipping delay. Don't forget that the balance of the excess funds will be needed to prepay the shipping agent before coming for the pick up, the funds should be sent to the shipper's senior accountant via MONEY GRAM TRANSFER AGENT located at: WAL-MART #2366 1470 S WASHINGTON STREET NORTH ATTLEBORO, MA 02760 Phone: 508-699-0277. The shipping agent is familiar with their services and they want the funds sent via a money gram transfer agent,I'm aware of the interest that will be charged for the transfer so you can go ahead to make the transfer ASAP. RECIEVER'S INFORMATIONS: MR. JOHN ADEWUNMI (SENIOR ACCOUNTANT) 25-30,HOPEWELL PORT ROAD, TIN CAN ISLAND,LAGOS. NIGERIA 23401. And the following informations will be needed to recieve the funds from the bank. 1.Sender's full name and address 2.Refference # for the transfer 3.Test question and answer 4.Total amount sent after the interest charged for the transfer. 5.And any other relevant informations regards the transfer. You can as well contact the shipping agent Mr.John Adewunmi for further development. Counting on you to do the transfer ASAP to avoid shipping delay. Thank you for your understanding and hope to do more business with you in the nearest future. Best regards. Robert. _________________________________________________________ Tin Can Island. Smashing. Down to the cop shop I went. After the cop had stopped laughing we finished the paperwork. He asked if I had any idea or the race of the person involved. I played him an answer phone message on my cellphone. After writing down the chaps racial background the pack was sent to the Yard. Result, one nicked here. Non-result, originator carries on the scam from Nigeria / Kenya and has the hassle of findin a new foot soldier here in the UK. Here's my final letter to the chap here before he was nicked. Sure it wasted some of my time but I get tired of these scammers and thought I'd have a go back. People complain a lot but don't do much about it so they carry on. ___________________________________________________________ From: "Glen Stenhouse" To: robertbutkin@netscape.net Subject: Re: Shipper's Bill... Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 21:43:25 +0100 Dear Robert, Let's just clear a few things up before you make a complete arse of yourself. 1. I know this is a scam as I have known from day one. I draw your attention to my first email I ever sent to you. Quote: I do have the car for sale but rather than give out an address due to the email account being a non secure one and the names not all matching please find attached my phone number I can be contacted on. Rather be safe than sorry. This was your first mistake. You should have realised that this is a smart man I am dealing with but you didn't. Why do you think you still have no contact details for me? Only a forwarding address. Let's clear it up early. I'm smart, you're not. 2. Even after explaining to you that I would not have any dealings whatsoever with the shipping of the vehicle you persisted to send more than the required amount. Again, you should have walked away, but you are obviously not a smart man. You'd like to think you are but you are not. 3. When counterfeiting a cheque, I worked this out within 2 minutes of opening the envelope, try to line up all the text. Also bear in mind when filling in the units that under tens of thousands you put 'ONE' not 'TEN' as this would imply 100,000. Again you are not a smart man. Getting the picture here? Probably not because you are not a smart man. 4. Within a further 5 minutes of opening the cheque I had spoken to Dave Osment. You must know Dave. He's the 'Head of Finance and Scrutiny' at the Newport Council in South Wales. Still not quite with me? I'll type the next bit really slow so you can keep up. He's the chap who issued 'the cheque'. It would appear the cheque started life as a £200 housing benefit cheque. Maybe it was yours? I can't imagine anyone employing you because you really aren't that smart. 5. You will no longer contact me on this matter. EVER!. If you require further clarification of this, as I'm sure you will because I've used a couple really big words, I suggest you contact the CID at Scotland Yard. They are the people who currently have your cheque, registered email address and airways bill. Oops. That's right. Even if you put a phoney address on the FedEx packet they keep a record of exactly where it came from. Just incase you missed it. Never phone me or email me again. This is now part of most car websites globally now. I have done my part in letting people know about you and you scam. Enjoy the rest of your freedom. Kind regards, Glen Ps. You're not smart. ________________________________________________________

Not forgetting the ablility to stay on the top page for hours instead of minutes (for now at least). I haven't typed BTTT on here until this post.

I'll be on here from now on. Thought it was nice how they ran such a loss yet the banner ads I counted it more than covered their claimed costs. Then within days of introducing Google ads to force membership with the enticement of being able to turn them off one of them buys a new Lotus Esprit. Non-profit my arse. The icing on the cake is now on ScoobyNet 3 Plus members can not currently turn off the Google ads.

They are automated emails initially and target sites like find it with email addresses shown. If you reply, that's when you get a real dummy on the other end. I had a similar one with an African chap wanting to buy my car. I followed it all the way through as a laugh and did indeed receive a cheque from him for £10,000. I immediately rang the cheque issuer (knowing before he sent it it would be dud) and found it to be a £200 benefit cheque issued in Newport, Wales. I followed it further working with the Police and had 1 chap prosecuted with another disappearing from the UK. Probably got the next banana boat home. Result was 1 in jail and a good chuckle had by myself at the level of dumb crime. The amount for the cheque didn't even match the words. The words were ten thousand but the numbers were £100,000. There are some dummies out there but sadly there are people dumber than them who do fall for it. Had I cashed the cheque it would have cleared until the end of the month when the error would have been found and I would have been expected to cough up (huge amounts of cash going through the account in question). They never want the car, only the money. Only give out work addresses if you want to entertain these people. Never a home one.