cheers for the help boys going to just take the box out from below, would like to take the engine out and get the internals sorted but dont think sir arnold would be to happy with an impreza blocking up his ramp for a couple of days going to leave them untill my workshop is up and running. . cheers for the link john, grand told me to go for techniclutch so going to order one now, just the turbo to find now and get it mapped.