thewelsho Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 Get this! Was in Beanscene the coffee place off Byers road on Friday night at 9pm. Used the council car park off Byres road. Took the obligatory two parking bays to protect my Scoob from being rattled by clumsy drivers and to my shock, some muppet from the council gave me a freaking ticket for £30 for being incorrectly parked! Unreal man! Place was nowhere near full either. What scumbag super-keen coucil puppet would do that on a Friday night? Get a life man!!!!! BTW, it's £60 if i don't pay within 14 days and I can only appeal in writing - GRRRRRRR!!!! [:@][:@][:@]
st3ph3n Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 I'm not one for the 2 spaces, but having been done myself round there I can sympathise. I was parked just off woodlands road in a permit holders street. 30 minutes before the area became free for everyone to use on a Saturday night with an empty road and I was done. Total jobsworths. 14 day thing is just a con to get you to pay up rather than appeal too.
andy Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 1) Was it issued by the council or a private company? 2) Does the ticket display two dates - date of offence and date of issue? 3) What signage was on display. Did that signage display times of regulation?
thewelsho Posted August 25, 2006 Author Posted August 25, 2006 Quote 1) Was it issued by the council or a private company? 2) Does the ticket display two dates - date of offence and date of issue? 3) What signage was on display. Did that signage display times of regulation? Dunno mate - payed it and binned the evidence!
david_taylor Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 only doing there job. If you cant do the time(pay the fine) dont do the crime. LOL[]
david_taylor Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 Quote I work for the Council [:$] lol Did'nt happen to put a parking ticket on a Subaru with Decals last weekend did you? []
andy Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 Quote Dunno mate - payed it and binned the evidence! There are sooooooo many get-outs on parking tickets it's unbelievable. Shoulda posted here when you got it rather than after parting with your hard-earned wonga! Mind you, it was probably worth the money to avoid being caught up in a situation like this []
thefastone Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 Well on the subject of Nazi council parking attendants... [:@] It seems that Aberdeen City Council have saw fit to start there evil "I'm only doing this job coz I failed trying to be a copper, and THEN failed trying to be a traffic warden" parking attendants doing midnight ticket runs in the city centre, Which in my mind goes against the whole "I'll be Des" thingy.... Its stoopid, On the one hand they want less people going out and binge drinking, and more people to keep a check on their mates... but on the other hand... They are stopping you parking anywhere near the pub.... Bunch of ar$e so it is!!!!! [:@] /Rant
david_taylor Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 Scottish Law states that all parking restrictions are void between 6pm to 8am. Unless you park in a resident only area. Well thats what some warden told me in glasgow!
thefastone Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 Oh really? Now theres a thing... That might need looking into... Thanks for that Information, it certainly wouldn't be the first time that Aberdeen Cooncil have tried to pull something thats illeagal... bunch of w***ers!!!!!! [:@]
ANDYJDMSTI Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 If you get your car clamped then make sure the company/ person who did it has the relevant SIA Licence...........if not then they will not have a leg to stand on if you fight it. []
RA Dunk Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 pretty sad stuff like this happening TBH, just pr!ck$ on power trips if ya ask me [:@]
andy Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 Quote If you get your car clamped then make sure the company/ person who did it has the relevant SIA Licence...........if not then they will not have a leg to stand on if you fight it. [] Clamping in Scotland by private firms has been illegal since 1992 (Black v Carmichael 1992 SCCR 709). You can only be clamped in Scotland on a public highway and even then only by the Police or someone with Statutory authority. I knew reading all this crap on traffic law would come in useful some day []
thewelsho Posted August 25, 2006 Author Posted August 25, 2006 Quote Quote If you get your car clamped then make sure the company/ person who did it has the relevant SIA Licence...........if not then they will not have a leg to stand on if you fight it. [] Clamping in Scotland by private firms has been illegal since 1992 (Black v Carmichael 1992 SCCR 709). You can only be clamped in Scotland on a public highway and even then only by the Police or someone with Statutory authority. I knew reading all this crap on traffic law would come in useful some day [] That's interesting! At the college where I work, they are introducing clamping for people who park "illegally". In other words, in non-desegnated areas. So, does that law apply to them? If so, I'm going on a crusade! I just sent an e-mail to the college asking them to check this out! Hhahah! Be soooo funny if all the signs came down!
andy Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 Quote That's interesting! At the college where I work, they are introducing clamping for people who park "illegally". In other words, in non-desegnated areas. So, does that law apply to them? If so, I'm going on a crusade! I just sent an e-mail to the college asking them to check this out! Hhahah! Be soooo funny if all the signs came down! The case centred around "theft by appropriation"... "...the essential feature of the physical act necessary to constitute theft is the appropriation, by which control and possession of the thing is taken from its owner or custodier. In principle, therefore, the removal of the thing does not seem to be necessary, if the effect of the act which is done to it is its appropriation by the accused (the clamper)... There is no suggestion that it was intended by the motorist that they [the accused] should have control over the car for any purpose, or that by parking the vehicle in the car park he intended that anyone else should have control over it." (Black v Carmichael) Clamping was judged as theft.
thewelsho Posted August 25, 2006 Author Posted August 25, 2006 Andy I sent a mail to the college and they got back to me and said that as far as they know, if they do not fine the person being clamped, then its ok. So? J
david_taylor Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 Thats pish....should make no difference whether they charge or not. Whats the procedure then...clamp you, inconvenience you like hell, then take it off? I would personally call citizens advice or a solicitor to check on that. Pretty sure that any clamping is illegal, regardless of charge or fine. Apparently if you let your tyre down then its not that hard to get them off though!
andy Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 The case set a precedent that denying a person use of their vehicle via clamping is theft by appropriation. I would suggest your college take legal advice before clamping. I'm no legal expert. I just like reading about little guys taking on the big guys and booting them in the nads [] A quick Google: Lord Allanbridge said that: "It is a question of fact whether there is appropriation by the alleged thief. In this case...when the accused clamped the wheel, he intentionally deprived the complainer of the "ownership" of the car by rendering it immobile." Although expressing some initial doubts, Lord Cowie said that: "However, there is no doubt that amotio is not a necessary element in every form of theft...The crucial matter which the Crown must prove is that the accused intended to detain the cars from the owners....and it is not necessary to prove that they intended to do so permanently....I am satisfied that there are sufficient facts set out in the present charges from which such an inference of intention can be drawn, always bearing in mind that it is the owner's loss and not the accused's gain that is important."
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