Midnight21 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hi everyone .....anyone heard of Log Book Loans or had any experience with them ....or advice you can give me on them? One of my friends who bought a scoob (wont say what kind but quite cheap and in a very bad way) its been totally reconditioned/resprayed etc but now a letter has arrived from these people saying the car belongs to them as a loan was taken out against the car!!!! and basically to hand the car over! no hpi shows up on a check either Hope someone has any info on this re...how does the law stand on this?? Dvla don't want to know!! Thanks Link to comment
G.Mac Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Im sure I read somewhere that these companies cant take the car off a new owner here in Scotland but I may be wrong. I think there was a discussion over on Scabbynet Graeme Link to comment
marko72 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Is it this mob? 478.3% APR, crikey. Hope your pal can sort it out. Maybe they should be speaking to who sold them the car. Link to comment
Midnight21 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Is it this mob? 478.3% APR, crikey. Hope your pal can sort it out. Maybe they should be speaking to who sold them the car. Yip its that lot!! :o @ the APR!!! The car was bought about 6 month ago... Edited January 5, 2012 by Midnight21 Link to comment
Midnight21 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Im sure I read somewhere that these companies cant take the car off a new owner here in Scotland but I may be wrong. I think there was a discussion over on Scabbynet Graeme I'll have a looky ta Link to comment
spect Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Do you hold a V5 in your name? Link to comment
scooby222 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 as above, who has the logbook in their name? if your friend has one in his name and is registered with the dvla as the owner id be telling them to go swivel Link to comment
badbaz Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 The V5 is the registered keeper - not the owner I'd be more concerned about the HPI clear thing! Hide the car the now and tell them to jog on Link to comment
Midnight21 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Do you hold a V5 in your name? Yip the V5 is in my friends name Link to comment
Goofy Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Must admit that reading this thread worries me up a bit. How can a company claim to have a financial interest in a vehicle when it is not shown on any HPI check - Asuming she had one done. I personally would first of all hide the car if possible then write a letter to said company and ask them for proof that there is finance outstanding on car. Ask them for a copy of the contract that was signed. This will prove that it was not your friend that is liable as the contract is not in their name. And as there is no data showing against the car on HPI, Tell them to go to the courts if they wish. If they are a non legit company (loan shark) then they will probably avoid that as they dont wish to be counter charged with bad practice under the FSA rules. Hope they work it out and soon. Link to comment
scooby222 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 i noticed that on the v5 - so what is actually proof of ownership mr MOT man? Link to comment
badbaz Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Possession perhaps? A receipt for purchase of the said vehicle probably showing reg and VIN numbers. Then it would be up to the law to prove that the previous seller didn't have the right to sell? Surely we must have some legal eagles in our midst? Scary thing is with situations such as this, if the previous seller didn't have the right to sell, then the current owner will have no right to the goods. Link to comment
monsterenergy Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I'm guessing here - but I think it might be to do with the loan type. HPI will shows finance used to purchase a car - this is a loan taken out secured against the vehicle which I think is different. Would HPI even know a loan had been secured against the vehicle? I'd be sceptical that the loan company had any right to the car once it had been sold... but could be wrong. Citizens Advice Bureau probably the way to go to avoid solicitors fees short term. Citizens Advice Bureau It sounds like a grey area to me - especially in Scotland where I'm pretty sure we're more protected than in England. Often these English companies just try to enforce their rules on Scotland without knowing the law - but again, I'm only guessing this might be the case here. Link to comment
baldobaz Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I have a friend in edinburgh who this very thing happend to, it turned out the previous owner had secured a loan from some dodgy loan shark and had used the car as security. The loan sharks had managed to get my friends address via dvla, they then turned up at his door demanding the car. Lets just say it didnt end well for the loan shark an his heavies, who after a small scuffle ended up gettin nicked for aggravated theft of a vehicle, my friend is a copper and just happened to have a few of his copper friends there at the time lol. Link to comment
BLOB EYE Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 According to the Hire Purchase Act a buyer of a car, which is still subject to a hire purchase agreement, will get good title to the car if the following conditions are met: The buyer did not know that the car was under hire purchase therefore buying the car in good faith believing the seller had the right to sell it The buyer is a private buyer and not a dealer or a finance company however there is no way to check if there is a secured loan on a vehicle. English baliffs cannot come to scotland and reposess, that is theft. the only way a the car can be reposessed is by a Sherrif Officer appearing with a court order or with your concent if neither have one. but i doubt a sherrif officer would even turn up without one. and all these answers are assuming the car was bought in england and taken to scotland. if it was bought and sold in scotland then its gonna be a different story. Logbook loans are franchises for loansharks. so ones in scotland will practice to scottish law as would the ones in england to english law. definately hide the car else where till its resolved, tell them its your holiday car and its been left in france Link to comment
BLOB EYE Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Not good news from experiences here, scroll down to read the stories Link to comment
SK08BYT Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Your friend could hide the car But also if they have a trusted friend or two you can change the name on the log book twice over a given period, say 6 months then no loan shark/lender have any standing on the car because its changed owners so many times and also they tend to cut their losses if they have to do much chasing.. Keep it hidden meantime! Link to comment
Midnight21 Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 The original owner(keeper) has handed over the spare keys and the log book to the Loansharks!!!! so he has to have sent to dvla for duplicate to sell it!! Tried to get in touch but no luck yet Link to comment
Goofy Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Definitely hide it and get locks changed. Expensive i know but cheaper than losing several 1000s Link to comment
SK08BYT Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Hide it soon as possible... Link to comment
scoobyseller555 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I take it that the HPI was done prior to purchase therefore tell them not to worry,repo. is slightly different under Scottish Law and obviously it is a personal loan as it isn't attached to the vehicle,they will also have an indemnity under the HPI check to cover them if info is incorrect(£10000)and as a result they are out of pocket. Gav Link to comment
orlandowilliams Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 The first things which you need to know that under the logbook loans lender only submit the logbook of the vehicle against the loans amount and before providing loan they examine the vehicle because loan amount is completely depends on the vehicle's value. if your vehicle is new then you can arrange a high amount but if your vehicle is old and not in good condition then either you will get a small loans or you will disqulaify for getting loan. Link to comment
Midnight21 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Oops sorry meant to reply on old thread to say all sorted ...loan company no interest in car now.....and it's now mine too :-) Link to comment
gc8-r Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Strip it and when they turn up.. Tell them they can have it. And give them shell minus everything... And them find a good legal shell and rebuild a good car.. Link to comment
pedsti Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 A cheap private plate and address change to a trusted m8 and just dont leave it in the same visable place to often,lock change is good but they might just lift it so best with a tracker if it's a few quid's worth you paid for it,personaly i would sell it and get something else. Link to comment
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