Council Road Re-surfacing

[scoob fae ork]

Im posting this to ask the question do any of you guys have this problem with your council. Every year the Orkney Islands Council decides it needs to repair alot of the roads in orkney fair enough you might think untill you find out how they do it First they stick 20mph road sighns up every where, then they pour liquid tar on the road followed by a thick lare of pea sized chips that sharp you can make your brother bleed by throwing them at him. Now for the bad bit all this loose chips on the road get throwen up by cars damaging the paint as you all know what a mess it can make and there left on the road for all the cars to pack them in as the council will NOT roll them in as this costs to much and this can go on for two weeks or more before they decide to take the sighns away but they still leave the chips down leaving a road thats a car destroying death trap.

How do they get away with this surly there must be a law againsed it if a farmer left mud on a road even with warning sighns and a car was damaged or there was a crash the guy would be court.

After seeing how much the Scoobs paint has deteriorated in the last month i phoned the council going straght to the top to complain and all i got told was its the most cost affective method of road repairs and the same method is done thruought the UK Bull Plop i thoght he then told me the damage is probbly caused by poor quality paint on the subaru

Sorry guys for rambling on so much i could go on alot with this but i wont for now but i am fighting to get the car repaired. so fingers crossed

[HairyDJ]

Daaarn Saaaf here they do regularly sweep the loose stuff up - probably to use it again and save money. Seems poor practice to not roll it in and not sweep it up.

Will they listen to you locals more, or would you get better response if it was an off-islander "tourist customer" - sure somebody up your way could try that angle for you if it helps put pressure on?

[scoob fae ork]

Daaarn Saaaf here they do regularly sweep the loose stuff up - probably to use it again and save money. Seems poor practice to not roll it in and not sweep it up.

Will they listen to you locals more, or would you get better response if it was an off-islander "tourist customer" - sure somebody up your way could try that angle for you if it helps put pressure on?

Nothing seems to bother them 100s of people complain every year even the police get on to them on a regular basis and they just say to us if you dont want your car damaged dont use it . In august 2 years ago a biker came off on the chips on a brand new R1 destroying the bike but thankfully not injuring him much ,He complained and demanded some compansation they told him he would not get anything as he should not be on a bike at this of year and it was his fault.

[scooby-girl]

It's the same over here on Skye!!

loose chippings and scoobies don't mix!

I don't use the scoob as a daily driver anymore because of this!

[scoob fae ork]

It's the same over here on Skye!!

loose chippings and scoobies don't mix!

I don't use the scoob as a daily driver anymore because of this!

Is it just somthing then about Island councils that have road repair techniques that were last used when apes rulled the planet or is it apes incharge of the councils ? i forget now !! sorry im wrong its Chimps and monkeys that are in charge of the councils not apes !!

[scoobyit]

I live in Angus and they do this all the time I am affraid the council are a law to there own, do what they want, when they want, how they want as they know nobody can pull them in to check I have had more hassle than its worth to even entertain them anymore, there tactics and mind set are beyond me

[scouk]

Yeah they do the ssame crap down here! And this year I've seen serious accidents as a direct result of the dodgy surface.. Couple taken to hospital! Car spinning a 270 just ourside my house!! And I evenfound myself a little sideways coming out a junction taking it easy! That was after havign a rover driver coem up behidn me and pass me on the straight, throwing peas all over my car!

BTW - check the suspension struts! I took soo many handfulls of stones from there when I did a check! I couldn't believe how many stones I collected between the coils of the springs! Which woudl inevetably be causign damage!!!

Unbelievable..

Annoyingly the Local Police Don't seem to want to comment on it.... And I'm generally in favour of Police actions...

We often have large lorries along my road which is fairly narrow and if that car outside my house foudn itself at that angle as a truck was coming! Almost certain fatality!!!!!

[ed-209]

Just ask who is their "public liability insurer" as they have failed in their "duty of care" towards the public by leaving the road in a dangerous condition. They can't refuse to give you their insurer details. I went down a same route with Cumbernauld town centre last year after I damaged my front splitter on a repaired road surface in the town centre. The end result was their insurer AXA paid out after 11 months the grand sum of £790 for the splitter to be replaced, repainted and fitted. If you do complain you might not win, if you don't complain you will never win.

Edited August 9, 2008 by ed-209

[scoob fae ork]

I think its about we all stand up to this . Would it be to difficult for evry one in the different problem areas to make up patitions and leave them in shops and stuff for the locals to sighn if we got enough signitures we could go to the Scottish goverment over our negligent councils before someone gets hurt or worse KILLED. We need to do this together if we have any chance of getting anywhere i for one am far beyond all i can take from watching the car's i take great pride in getting damaged by some fat man sitting in his office filling his pockets of our money and doing such a shabby job of the roads we pay so much for. Does anyone feel the same way as i do ???

[scoob fae ork]

Think Am really starting to lose the plot with this WOOOOOSAAAAAAA

[P1_Paul]

They put the same stuff on the roads in Fife, I generaly try to avoid the roads for a month or so. Usually that's how long it takes for the road to clear.

[Spaceman]

WWOOOOOOOSSSSSSAAAAA

Quality quote mate

[scoob fae ork]

They put the same stuff on the roads in Fife, I generaly try to avoid the roads for a month or so. Usually that's how long it takes for the road to clear.

I try to avoid it as best i can to but when they surround your house with it you dont have much choice. After hearing of so many people having the same problem in so many parts of Scotland its making me think i dont stand a chance with fighting the council and winning

[hosstheboss]

I ran through a pot hole on the Aberdeen Airport road and bucled the NSF wheel on my RB320 so i took all the photo's, depth of the hole etc and contacted the council. I got a really nice reply from them with all the forms to fill in and send to their insurers (AXA) which i did very diligently. Got areply telling me to basically piss off!! Said the road fault had not been reported since they did asurvey some 3 months prior to my "accident" so they were not liable. Oh and by the way sir, if you decide to pursue this further we will launch an independant enquirey into your claim - christ i felt like a criminal...................

Oh and by the way, the tar and stone chips thing is exactly the same here in Aberdeenshire.........

[emoe]

Id just burn their offices down.

[scoob fae ork]

Id just burn their offices down.

also has anyone got a high velocity rifle to pick off the ones that run.

I ran through a pot hole on the Aberdeen Airport road and bucled the NSF wheel on my RB320 so i took all the photo's, depth of the hole etc and contacted the council. I got a really nice reply from them with all the forms to fill in and send to their insurers (AXA) which i did very diligently. Got areply telling me to basically piss off!! Said the road fault had not been reported since they did asurvey some 3 months prior to my "accident" so they were not liable. Oh and by the way sir, if you decide to pursue this further we will launch an independant enquirey into your claim - christ i felt like a criminal...................

Oh and by the way, the tar and stone chips thing is exactly the same here in Aberdeenshire.........

How can they think there not responsible for that. We pay them alot of money to keep our roads to a good standard and theyr failing that with flying colours. If any other person knowingly did that damage to your car they would end up in court so why dont our councils ???

[emoe]

also has anyone got a high velocity rifle to pick off the ones that run.

Err....yes!

want the 308 or my .223 WSSM?

[thewelsho]

Id just burn their offices down.

You said what I was thinking! It seems that there is nothing that can be done to stop this. Perhaps taking a JCB into the council office car park and trashing everyone of their cars in protest, might be the only way to wake these negligent to$$ers up. Just a shame that such action has to be illegal. Pffff.

[emoe]

You said what I was thinking! It seems that there is nothing that can be done to stop this. Perhaps taking a JCB into the council office car park and trashing everyone of their cars in protest, might be the only way to wake these negligent to$$ers up. Just a shame that such action has to be illegal. Pffff.

You know thinking about it there was a farmer here who drove his tractor up to the SOUTH BEDS DISTRICT OFFICES and blocked their entrance, he was complaining about something i cant remeber what. But i do remember that the council listened and did something!!

Hope someone from the Beds area can remember what that was about, was only a year ago if that!

[thewelsho]

You know thinking about it there was a farmer here who drove his tractor up to the SOUTH BEDS DISTRICT OFFICES and blocked their entrance, he was complaining about something i cant remeber what. But i do remember that the council listened and did something!!

Hope someone from the Beds area can remember what that was about, was only a year ago if that!

Yeah. I can see that as a good compromise. I remember one time some guy couldn't get to sleep because of lorries going over a speed hump that was installed outside his house. He complained about it time and time again and the council didn't listen. So, he got a JCB and dug it up himself! He was taken to court over it.

[hosstheboss]

Here's a picture of the wheel - it's not as if these things "bend" easily is it?

[hosstheboss]

A picture of the hole!

[Frank_STI]

It's the same over here on Skye!!

loose chippings and scoobies don't mix!

I don't use the scoob as a daily driver anymore because of this!

My girlfriend lives on Skye and the tar and chips I get on the car is shocking! Is your car black btw?

[emoe]

Here's a picture of the wheel - it's not as if these things "bend" easily is it?

Thats not bad at all mate. Repairable wheel.

But at the end of the day you shouldnt have to repair anything!! what the hell is our CAR TAX paying for???

I came back to england 2 years ago and have seen even more of a down turn in social lifestyle and opression of its people than what it was back in 96 when i left!

Problem is, only a select few stand up for their rights, and because others are sheep and follow the rules and take everything up the butt, the ones who do complain are pushed down and dont get anywhere.

Reminds me of Monty python.

Old woman!

Man!

Man. I'm sorry. Old man, What knight live in that castle

over there?

I'm thirty-seven.

What?

I'm thirty-seven ... I'm not old.

Well - I can't just say: "Hey, Man!'

Well you could say: "Dennis"

I didn't know you were called Dennis.

You didn't bother to find out, did you?

I've said I'm sorry about the old woman, but from the behind

you looked ...

What I object to is that you automatically treat me like

an inferior ...

Well ... I AM king.

Oh, very nice. King, eh! I expect you've got a palace and fine

clothes and courtiers and plenty of food. And how d'you get that?

By exploiting the workers! By hanging on to outdated imperialist

dogma which perpetuates the social and economic differences in our

society! If there's EVER going to be any progress ...

An OLD WOMAN appears.

Dennis! There's some lovely filth down here ... Oh!

how d'you do?

How d'you do, good lady ... I am Arthur, King of the Britons ...

can you tell me who lives in that castle?

King of the WHO?

The Britons.

Who are the Britons?

All of us are ... we are all Britons. ... and I am your king ....

Ooooh! I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were

an autonomous collective ...

You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship,

A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes ...

There you are, bringing class into it again ...

That's what it's all about ... If only -

Please, please good people. I am in haste. What knight lives in

that castle?

No one live there.

Well, who is your lord?

We don't have a lord.

What?

I told you, We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune, we take

it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.

But all the decision of that officer

must be approved at a bi-weekly meeting by a simple majority

in the case of purely internal affairs.

Be quiet!

... but a two-thirds majority ...

Be quiet! I order you to shut up.

Order, eh -- who does he think he is?

I am your king!

Well, I didn't vote for you.

You don't vote for kings.

Well, how did you become king, then?

The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite,

held Excalibur aloft from the bosom of the water to signify by

Divine Providence ... that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur ...

That is why I am your king!

Look, strange women lying on their backs in ponds handing out

swords ... that's no basis for a system of government. Supreme

executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from

some farcical aquatic ceremony.

Be quiet!

You can't expect to wield supreme executive power

just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

Shut up!

I mean, if I went around saying I was an Emperor because some

moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, people would

put me away!

(Grabbing him by the collar)

Shut up, will you. Shut up!

Ah! NOW ... we see the violence inherent in the system.

Shut up!

PEOPLE (i.e. other PEASANTS) are appearing and watching.

(calling)

Come and see the violence inherent in the system.

Help, help, I'm being repressed!

(aware that people are now coming out and watching)

Bloody peasant!

(pushes DENNIS over into mud and prepares to ride off)