Car Security

[craigwrx]

Several thefts lately with the RAC Trackstar just ripped out and discarded within in minutes tells me this is a total waste of my money and i will most certainly not renew my contract.

Was looking at the "blackjax" system, this system was mentioned on the P1 forum, after some searches i have read nothing but good reports, anybody here have this system fitted ??

If it is a good system ...Around £250 fitted would be a very justifiable expense ...

Edited August 27, 2007 by craigwrx

[MilestoneMike]

Hi this is my first post. I had to have tracker fitted to mine or insurer wouldn't insure me for theft. I also heard some bad reports about RAC and it was nearly £450 to have it installed at my local car security garage. Instead got in touch with a guy at CATA who recommended the SmarTrack protector+. They have install engineers nationwide and came to my work in Glenrothes and fitted the system for £290. Its £120 a year for the service or £320 ish for the lifetime that you own the vehicle so you'll need to keep the motor for 3 years to get your moneys worth. I can get you the number of the guy I used they fitted the system before I even sent the cheque can't say fairer than that.

[sti pretender]

Have the trackstar as came with the car most inurers seem to ask for it. Still on the free year but going to get the lifetime subscription.

Had thought about an Anti-Jack system but is car jacking that common? I know there was an attempted one posted on here but is it not just the latest must have gadget from security firms. Most cars come with alarms and immobilisers, most expensive and performance cars come tracking systems, you aren't going to buy another device you already have so an Anti-Jack system is the next thing to sell you.

Cynical I know but locking your doors and being aware of you surrounding is probably one of the best defenses.

As for thefts the standard subaru alarm has a good feature on it called Super Lock. It immobilises the car cannot be opened by remote lock has to be unlocked by the key and as soon as the door is opened the alarm goes off until the PIN password is typed on the control pad.

Should be in holder for the warranty book. Also best to change the PIN from the default as usually on a silver sticker in a wee plastic bag in the holder.

Usually use this if on holiday or away for a few days.

[fai17]

Have the trackstar as came with the car most inurers seem to ask for it. Still on the free year but going to get the lifetime subscription.

Had thought about an Anti-Jack system but is car jacking that common? I know there was an attempted one posted on here but is it not just the latest must have gadget from security firms. Most cars come with alarms and immobilisers, most expensive and performance cars come tracking systems, you aren't going to buy another device you already have so an Anti-Jack system is the next thing to sell you.

Cynical I know but locking your doors and being aware of you surrounding is probably one of the best defenses.

As for thefts the standard subaru alarm has a good feature on it called Super Lock. It immobilises the car cannot be opened by remote lock has to be unlocked by the key and as soon as the door is opened the alarm goes off until the PIN password is typed on the control pad.

Should be in holder for the warranty book. Also best to change the PIN from the default as usually on a silver sticker in a wee plastic bag in the holder.

Usually use this if on holiday or away for a few days.

Good wise words from a wise man

[scouk]

If I coudl get the blackjax system fitted locally I would..

My brother had it fitted to his bugeye WRX as part of a clifford concept alarm. Now he's upgraded to an RB320 he got the blackjax system installed again. He swears by it. given thh choise between tracker or blackjax he's gone for blackjax.

Ok. I totally agree with the comments above that keeping an open eye is important and is quite possibly the best defence. However! There have been recent reports on this very forum from members who have had attempted car-jackings in the central belt!! So I would say it is an increasing risk! Also it's not really a "new" system it's been aroudn for several years now.

What you really need to be aware of is that after it's armed you MUST re-arm it every time a door is opened otherwise 30seconds later the car cuts power and sounds te alarm.. Quite embarassing. Bad if you are a taxi where peopel are comign in and out of the car all the time. E.g. if you drop someone off or pick them up remember you'll need to re-arm the sytem after they the door closes. Also make sure all doors are closed then key the pin code.

There are loads of scenarios but the main one is this. Stopped on traffic/junction. You get blocked in, big guy get's out of a car and aproaches you with a baseball bat or worse.. a gun! What do you do? Try and make a run for it? How far will you get. How about put up a fight and beat te crap out of them? What the blackjax system allows you to do is get out of the car and let them take the vehicle! They jump in and drive off. mile or so down the road the blackjax recognises the door opened and closed without the system being disabled. at which point the car shuts down safetly and sounds teh alarm. The car attracts attention to itself and teh hi-jacker is stuck and has to bail-out! Now you just follow the sound of the alarm get in disable the system and drive off easy.

Ok it's not as simple as that. They may still chase after you... They may vandalise the car is anger.. They may even lie in wait while you get back to your car and force you to drive or somethign scary. Other option is just to call police and let them meet you at the cars location. In most cases the car-jacker will be soo freaked out thei'll just run..

Well that's the theory anyway... Sadly Insurance companies don't seem to recognise blackjax properly and give discount.. Yet the penetratable tracker system is recognised.. *sigh*

Just wanted to add that just because the doors are locked doesn't mean someone wont try and break the drivers window to drag you out of the car! Also a good idea to get some armourguard security film. It's like window tint film but transparent and very firm so if someone tried to break the window thei'll have a hard time.. Glass will shatter but the film keeps it all in place. Planning on getting some of this fitted since I was forced to remove my window tints...

Edited August 27, 2007 by ScoUK

[fraz692002]

If I coudl get the blackjax system fitted locally I would..

My brother had it fitted to his bugeye WRX as part of a clifford concept alarm. Now he's upgraded to an RB320 he got the blackjax system installed again. He swears by it. given thh choise between tracker or blackjax he's gone for blackjax.

Ok. I totally agree with the comments above that keeping an open eye is important and is quite possibly the best defence. However! There have been recent reports on this very forum from members who have had attempted car-jackings in the central belt!! So I would say it is an increasing risk! Also it's not really a "new" system it's been aroudn for several years now.

What you really need to be aware of is that after it's armed you MUST re-arm it every time a door is opened otherwise 30seconds later the car cuts power and sounds te alarm.. Quite embarassing. Bad if you are a taxi where peopel are comign in and out of the car all the time. E.g. if you drop someone off or pick them up remember you'll need to re-arm the sytem after they the door closes. Also make sure all doors are closed then key the pin code.

There are loads of scenarios but the main one is this. Stopped on traffic/junction. You get blocked in, big guy get's out of a car and aproaches you with a baseball bat or worse.. a gun! What do you do? Try and make a run for it? How far will you get. How about put up a fight and beat te crap out of them? What the blackjax system allows you to do is get out of the car and let them take the vehicle! They jump in and drive off. mile or so down the road the blackjax recognises the door opened and closed without the system being disabled. at which point the car shuts down safetly and sounds teh alarm. The car attracts attention to itself and teh hi-jacker is stuck and has to bail-out! Now you just follow the sound of the alarm get in disable the system and drive off easy.

Ok it's not as simple as that. They may still chase after you... They may vandalise the car is anger.. They may even lie in wait while you get back to your car and force you to drive or somethign scary. Other option is just to call police and let them meet you at the cars location. In most cases the car-jacker will be soo freaked out thei'll just run..

Well that's the theory anyway... Sadly Insurance companies don't seem to recognise blackjax properly and give discount.. Yet the penetratable tracker system is recognised.. *sigh*

Just wanted to add that just because the doors are locked doesn't mean someone wont try and break the drivers window to drag you out of the car! Also a good idea to get some armourguard security film. It's like window tint film but transparent and very firm so if someone tried to break the window thei'll have a hard time.. Glass will shatter but the film keeps it all in place. Planning on getting some of this fitted since I was forced to remove my window tints...

God i didn't realise some people go to such extremes as that? is this worst case scenario?

I must be so naive but never knew that some T%^ts would go to such lengths to steal scoobies.

Fraz

[krs]

This is my first post, But back to alarms never new there was so much to an alarm.

The bottom line is do people really walking past a car with an alarm going off really care I don't think they do.

[jamesm]

This is my first post, But back to alarms never new there was so much to an alarm.

The bottom line is do people really walking past a car with an alarm going off really care I don't think they do.

It is still draws enough attention though. If an alarm goes off, you will always at least glance at it as it draws attention to itself. If there is no one there you will walk on, if there are folk messing about with it you would take a second look.

Same with house alarms. We had a lot a break ins last summer and people really started taking notice of people house/car alarms. My neighbours' alarm went off in the early hours once and the police turned out on the blue lights as someone (probably the coppers who live along the road) had phoned it in.

As for my tracker. I find the insurance saving pays for it.