ones got 270 bhp and costs 20k the other has 420 and costs a lot more;) No comparison really (sorry for anyone expecting david to beat goliath!), porsche is extremely quick in a straight line (drove cars with bigger bhp but never felt as quick as this), quicker than my old sti/new wrx through the corners and rides better, and would you believe i can crack 30mpg out the porsche which i've never managed in recent scoobs! Not much use for buying loads of shopping though (is that a bad thing?), equals the scoob for tyre noise, and always have a fear if something goes wrong its going to be sore on my behind, although you can get a porsche warranty up to its 9 year old helps. [H]