Had a test drive in one about 5 years ago and was not that impressed Vtec kicks in far too high up the rev range imho and to be fair my chipped Clio cup felt faster , my mate had a type uk with ppp the same time i had the clio and it was alot quicker than the clio . But i do agree its not the car is the driver My dad who is 64 and an ex race driver gives me a run for my money in his 120BHP astra van lol The car does not dictate how fast i go, my abilities do i think thats why i have never had a crash in 12 years of driving (touch wood)