20,000 and the rest lol especially when you change all again, thats from expeirence do it right the first time Rich, i cant say anything really as im changing again for more power.. are you ever happy what you have i hopefully will be this time keep the pics coming Rich as for mk1cos his work is at a very high standard and i would recomend him..what sort of engine mods you going for Rich twisted set up, 2.1 2.3.2.5 if the pennies are available i would say the 2.33 thats my oppinion tho best of luck what ever you do