drb5 Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 Basically this is a plug in ECU with the Ecutek license, so you don't have to pay the full amount, which is usually over £500, instead this makes it about £300. £200 ono
drb5 Posted November 18, 2005 Author Posted November 18, 2005 Just to add, you do need to get this ECU remapped for your own car.
SaxoBoy Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 Am I missing something here! A full remap of a virgin MY99-00 ECU to a Tek2.5-3 standard is around £500 from memory. You have an licensed ECU and want £200 for it but seem to suggest its custom mapped and would not work on a standard or decatted scooby in a plug and play basis. Therefore anyone purchasing it for £200 then needs to pay a mapper £300 for his time to remap to a tek2.5 or custom standard. Total spend = £500 and you have the hassle of messing around in the footwell to change the ecu's. Er, why would anyone do that when they can just pay £500 from the outset to remap their own ecu?
RS Grant Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 He did say...... ono though. Cheers, Grant
drb5 Posted November 18, 2005 Author Posted November 18, 2005 Grant has hit the button! Cheers bud People can't help, but want to start arguement, when they clearly haven't read THE ENTIRE POST. Johnny, if your inerested, give me a shout and i'll give you a special price.
Johnny50 Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 Kenny, i see where you're coming from... But at the moment...Andy charges £650 for Ecutek...(according to his website) Unsure about the remp on it's own though, so this may still save a few pennies. Dave, will let you know soon bud.
SaxoBoy Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 I did read the ono bit - but IMHO you'll have to let it go for around £100-125 to make it worth someone's while which is quite a big drop from £200. I don't know what map the ecu has now but John Banks basically invented the half fat Tek 3 known somewhat unofficially as Tek 2.5. This is a remap that will run just shy of 1.2bar and is designed for TD04 MY99-00s that have a full decat exhaust. I'm pretty sure I was told that this broad-brush map was discovered after he was doing full remaps on numerous MY99s with decats. He consistently found the maps were all very close to one another with just those mods so a 'standard' could be adopted. Most mappers will have the '2.5' map saved on their computers and it takes just a few minutes to flash the ecu so on the basis its licensed you might find a friendly mapper that will reflash it to the more universal map for a few pints. This will open your market right up, make the ECU more sellable and allow you to command a higher price. A few years back I sold my 2.5 ecu to a guy in Ireland on an ecu exchange basis for IIRC £300+ I also might be wrong but I seem to recall that you can run a 2.5 remap on a standard car but you will obviously get less gains. I don't mean to be objectionable its just that your first post didn't quite stack up in my mind. P.S. I should add that my info above is over 1.5 years old as I've been out the scooby game for that long and tend not to keep abreast of changes in the ecu market. Check before believing what I post
SaxoBoy Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 I would imagine that the £650 covers andy's liscense payment to Ecutek and the rest is his time spent mapping, running, checking, mapping, running, checking over and over. In other words a full monty remap. There defo used to be a 'broadbrush' decat remap when I was kicking around and it would be sad if that map has just dissapeared. I'd bet JB still has it on his laptop Actually, I recall being told to run the car from 20-silly speeds in the backroads of fife whilst John mapped her up to 1.4 bar (!!!!) just to cover mometary overboost, etc. Despite the turbo working above its normal range the car was crazy fast!! Might be worth the full fat remap for that alone
dave_morgan Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 I guess it all comes down to how much the remap will cost. John used to do it for circa £100, so it would make Dave's price £300 - pretty reasonable and you still have your original ECU for selling the car on. Getting the 2.5 map would be a good route forward though, Kenny's right there. At least then someone could run around in the car safely until they could get booked in for a full mapping session. The 2.5 map does run on a completely standard car, and does make a noticeable difference to the performance Dave
dave_morgan Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 What car/spec was it mapped for out of interest Dave??
drb5 Posted November 18, 2005 Author Posted November 18, 2005 2.5 litre.....for a start. Prices vary from one mapper to the next. I put £200 ono up, as i was sure someone would ocme on and beat me down. We do this ith everything we sell, including parts, cars, etc, etc, so i don't think i was being in any way unfair about the pricing. No probs Johnny.
dave_morgan Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 Price seems fair to me to be honest Dave. Price new from Subaru is 498+vat, without an ecutek licence !! Even if mapping costs £200, you'd still be ~£200+ quid better off than th current full price, and you'd still have your original ECU. Would be tempted if it fitted my car!
Johnny50 Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 Well it fits mine... And i'm about to book Andy for a full remap.
dave_morgan Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 Go for it Johnny... it's about time you did something to that poor car!! Doesn't suit you at all!
ScoobyAndy Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 << Well it fits mine... And i'm about to book Andy for a full remap. >> About time too
SaxoBoy Posted November 18, 2005 Posted November 18, 2005 So do I understand that Johnny has come full circle from wagon to various other cars and back to wagon? Any plans to monster this one?
Johnny50 Posted November 19, 2005 Posted November 19, 2005 Yep Kenny... you've got it right. Russell (wuz) is fitting my Sti8 tmic next week, just picked up an FETD05 for it, Harvey is going to port my headers and up-pipe, then i'll get the FPR and pump fitted, sort out some sort of induction, then let Andy.F loose.
SaxoBoy Posted November 19, 2005 Posted November 19, 2005 So, in short if I want to spank it now is the time
Johnny50 Posted November 19, 2005 Posted November 19, 2005 PMSL....Somehow i think it'll take a bit more than that before i'm leaving the S2K behind.
SaxoBoy Posted November 19, 2005 Posted November 19, 2005 Doubt it - those mods should take you nicely over 300bhp will they not. I can live with 275bhp classics but once you push the 300bhp barrier its bye-bye
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