=Robbo= Posted September 30, 2005 Posted September 30, 2005 Hi All. I had my decatted ?03 WRX remapped by Andy Forrest last weekend and just wanted to share my thoughts with you all. Andy used the EcuTek software to remap the Standard '03 WRX ECU (Denso, I think?). As most of you know Andy has a bit of a pedigree in performance engine tuning and I have to say it was a bloody privilege to sit next to someone who knows so much about a subject. So how does my re-mapped engine feel after one weeks driving? Well have a guess? ?Fantastic! If you?re thinking of getting a remap I wouldn?t look anywhere else. Robbo. Andys' website is www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk
Gumball Posted September 30, 2005 Posted September 30, 2005 another happy customer !!! hes a topman when it comes to transforming scobs. pleased for ya
higgy Posted September 30, 2005 Posted September 30, 2005 Hey Robbo Been there twice before and will be visiting him soon after some more alterations As you said the man knows his scoobs!!!!!! Higgy
JamesF Posted September 30, 2005 Posted September 30, 2005 any chance on sharing how much you paid for the remap mate ?
=Robbo= Posted October 1, 2005 Author Posted October 1, 2005 I don?t know if the price varies depending on how complex the job is but I paid £550. I believe a large chunk of this is for the software license, Andy said additional remaps would cost me around 200'ish depending on how much has been changed on the engine. I toyed with the idea of a piggy back system such as the Dastek unichip, but from what I?ve picked up it's a bit of a hack. The on board ECU is in constant battle with the piggyback ECU (which is intercepting and changing it's commands to the engine), i.e. the onboard ECU is flat out trying to correct the engine that it thinks is not running correctly. Being an I.T. bod I understand this, it's all about processing power and overhead. Please don't quote me on all this folks I'm no expert, I'm sure there are peeps out there very happy with their piggy back systems. I just liked the idea of using a dedicated ECU and not adding any overhead to the thing. Robbo
dipsy Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 Andy f remap made a big difference over the tek2 exchange job i had to me the tek2 made the car slow with Andy remap the car pulls alot harder in gear i think i have posted more about Andy good work on my car than anything else
~ ~ Cal ~~ Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 Robbo - what gains did you see over standard mon amigo ? thanks Cal
=Robbo= Posted October 1, 2005 Author Posted October 1, 2005 Hi Cal, well the first thing I said to Andy was that I was not intererested in BHP. As we all know it's torque that makes a car fast, BHP is just a peak figure and a marketing tool, like "fat free" Midget Gems! lol. I have no idea of what my car is kicking out all I care about is how it feels. I can tell you mate it feels much much faster. Robbo
SCOOBYD00 Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 Good to hear, got my Apexi going in on the 19th Oct.. counting the days!
st3ph3n Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 Another very satisfied customer by the looks of it. Do you have any changes on the induction side of things Robbo? I'm hoping to get the decat and then a Remap, but I'd always figured an Induction kit would be required to fully enjoy the benefits too. So much for keeping it standard.
=Robbo= Posted October 1, 2005 Author Posted October 1, 2005 Only a green panel filter mate, but from what i've read unless your gonna move to a full "smooth" induction kit, any expense in this department may be wasted, a standard Subaru paper filter may well be fine. The whole "air in - air out" thing is about reducing turbulance and improving flow but turbulance comes first, why do people spend so much money getting cylinder heads ported? To reduce turbulance. Right now my engine way out performs the handling of my car, both brakes and suspension are in need of a comparable upgrade. I wish I hadn't spent so much on a Hayward & Scott system as I could have had a better fitting stainless system made for me in Glasgow, for much less. I have bought both the H&S classic backbox and the jap style back box not to mention center, down and up pipes. Both backboxes sit so low they look bloody awfull. I have the classic style fitted and it sits about 5" too low, it looks like it's going to fall off! And before anyone asks, yes it is properly fitted. I'm getting it modified by someone at the end of the month I'll post before and after pics and contact details if they do a good job. Robbo.
fai17 Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 << Only a green panel filter mate, but from what i've read unless your gonna move to a full "smooth" induction kit, any expense in this department may be wasted, a standard Subaru paper filter may well be fine. The whole "air in - air out" thing is about reducing turbulance and improving flow but turbulance comes first, why do people spend so much money getting cylinder heads ported? To reduce turbulance. Right now my engine way out performs the handling of my car, both brakes and suspension are in need of a comparable upgrade. I wish I hadn't spent so much on a Hayward & Scott system as I could have had a better fitting stainless system made for me in Glasgow, for much less. I have bought both the H&S classic backbox and the jap style back box not to mention center, down and up pipes. Both backboxes sit so low they look bloody awfull. I have the classic style fitted and it sits about 5" too low, it looks like it's going to fall off! And before anyone asks, yes it is properly fitted. I'm getting it modified by someone at the end of the month I'll post before and after pics and contact details if they do a good job. Robbo. >> You could always try Meercat in Kilburnie.He done mines and its perfect.
~ ~ Cal ~~ Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 God damn this is killin' me - I've been down the decat route before and it gave great gains. I have now sold my decat downpipe but I want so more power. My MOT is due next month and I really cannot be bothered with changing out cat pipes etc every year. I reckon without a decat I may gain about 30 ftlbs of torque........Sports cats ain't much cop by the sounds of it so maybe I'll just get remapped and see what it feels like before tweaking again. Robbo - when you say full decat I assume your up-pipe was changed out too ? Thanks Cal
=Robbo= Posted October 1, 2005 Author Posted October 1, 2005 Yeh mate up pipe too, I was told the cat in the up pipe limits what the tuners can do as they worry about blowing it to bits and it buggering the turbo, i think they need to use more fuelling to try and keep it cool. Something like that. Very important though - you MUST get both up and down pipes heat wrapped or its a real waste of time. As for MOT, the big centre Cat on the new age should be all you need to pass emissions, get your fav mechanic to do it for you as part of the MOT it only take 10mins and warm the Cat up for 20mins before testing, just in case. Aye, just call me "Mr Environment". Robbo ps. Have you ever seen what the cat looks like inside the pipe - it's no wonder it suffocates the engine its like a big lump of cardboard stuffed down the exhaust!
wrxmania Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 << I wish I hadn't spent so much on a Hayward & Scott system as I could have had a better fitting stainless system made for me in Glasgow, for much less. I have bought both the H&S classic backbox and the jap style back box not to mention center, down and up pipes. Both backboxes sit so low they look bloody awfull. I have the classic style fitted and it sits about 5" too low, it looks like it's going to fall off! And before anyone asks, yes it is properly fitted. I'm getting it modified by someone at the end of the month I'll post before and after pics and contact details if they do a good job. Robbo. >> I assume C&C Custom Stainless in Hillington??? They are the boys Brian.
AlanG Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 << Sports cats ain't much cop by the sounds of it >> Hows that Cal? Any info? I'm looking into this just now for my car and have conflicting opinions, but it looks like one will be going on at some point if i can sort out the ecu side of things.
wrxmania Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 A sports CAT is certainly my plan - quite a few companies developing good one with little power loss over a decat. C&C also build them, as will Meercat I am sure. Brian
=Robbo= Posted October 1, 2005 Author Posted October 1, 2005 Yeh Brian C&C it is. I hear good things about them. I have it booked in for the end of the month, I'll post before and after pics. Robbo.
fai17 Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 << A sports CAT is certainly my plan - quite a few companies developing good one with little power loss over a decat. C&C also build them, as will Meercat I am sure. Brian >> You're right Brian.He does 100,200 cell cats m8.
wrxmania Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 << Yeh Brian C&C it is. I hear good things about them. I have it booked in for the end of the month, I'll post before and after pics. Robbo. >> They are superb and will do you a good job - make sure you mention me so they'll add my 10% commission Seiously, the best in the business, alongside the likes of Wullie @ Meercat. Brian
AlanG Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 C&C have always done a good job for me too. In fact, the last 3 or 4 configurations of exhaust on my car have been done by them. Only stipulation is that i've got to take them out in the car every time i get something done!
wrxmania Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 Lol - no surprise there then - th industrial estate has seen a bit of action alright! Cameron needs the excitement with his sh*tty 'new' speed machine - a 1.6 Vectra!!! Brian
grayscooby Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 hi all would just like 2 say had a power fc done by andy f cant believe the change in the cars performance he really makes a great job
frank c Posted October 1, 2005 Posted October 1, 2005 Can't wait,...Mine's is going for a remap on friday...
~ ~ Cal ~~ Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Old thread but valid for my question -------------------------------------- I have now opted to go the Sports cat route after a bit more research and anticipating this forthcoming ball-ache http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/carlgvowners/m...tion-aguide.htm But my question is this ........... I know it's beneficial to remap her again after fitting the sports cat downpipe ( TSL one) BUT if I fit the decat up-pipe too will it run badly without a remap ? From what I can gather it will spool up quicker and allow me to run a higher boost I think the answer is probably "no just reset the ECU" but ideally yes. Also I will use a CEL fix for the uppipe but does anyone know if the Tek3 can blank this out ? Also - does anyone know of a cheap place to buy new gaskets Thanks Cal p.s off to research bigger turbo - does this modding game ever end !
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