fai17 Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 You should have got the wastegate with v band fitment rather than the 2bolt flange! Makes for easier installation.
Guest Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 Indeed V-band makes life so simple. Is the gt35 billet?
jef Posted August 10, 2011 Author Posted August 10, 2011 i cant honestly comment on questions above just what im told, whats difference with v band w/g or not? i wont be installing the w/g so maybe thats why thats the one theve chosen?, the engine will be assembled before fitting to the car more comments welcome cheers
jef Posted August 23, 2011 Author Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) next new bits, un assembled parallel fuel line kit and 1000hp twin plate clutch and flywheel assembly Edited August 23, 2011 by jef
Gumball Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 Great project! I was drooling reading the spec and then the photos as time passed. Looks like youre gonna have a great car very soon and with the 1k clutch its certainly not popping ! Good luck with the final outcome and hope you get the 1/4mile and hp result youre after
jef Posted August 23, 2011 Author Posted August 23, 2011 cheers mate with the money spent im hoping for same results as you lol but theres always a weak link lol just hope ive covered everything should see me at some events late this year and next, all going well (expect some sh*t. inexperienced driving, with hopefully a few flukes along the way haha) thanks
Gumball Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 Just practise and get used to it before you go mental. Plenty of track, fast road, time trial and quarter mile folks on here to help you learn
arch Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 Looking good some nice parts there. I think you will have a problem with your fuel lines as they stand. The ones from the fuel rails to the T-Pieces look fine but the other two look too short to do anything. You will need a feed from the hard pipe on the pax inner wing to the first T-Piece which will be your pressure feed. Then from the T-piece that will be your return line to the FPR which preferably should have AN unions fitted, then another line from the FPR to the return hard pipe on the pax inner wing. Did you go for nitrile rubber hose and cutter type fittings or Teflon hose and olive type fittings?ired What model of Bosch fuel pump are you using to feed this as i am not sure a single pump will be sufficient to feed a GT35 and you dont mention a swirl pot. Have you thought about the current requirements of the fuel pump and the current wiring gauge/fuse. What make and type of injectors are you using i.e brand top or side feed. Have you checked if your 1000cc injectors will have enough headroom as you might be very close to maxing them on a GT35. Top feed ID 1000cc injectors are maxing out on billet GT30's.
jef Posted August 23, 2011 Author Posted August 23, 2011 arch some good questions there, sorry im not able answer them all, the pics ive shown are not the complete feul set up, ive a prolab fpr, and 1000cc injectors im sure however the engine builder is providing me with a reputable 550 plud bhp set up my faith is with this person/company im not over questioning the set up, but more showing it off - already a few comments regarding bits and peices of the build. which is good for me, interesting and provides more basics for understanding these engines at these power levels. so by all means keep the comments coming = but im not able to answer them all, im hoping the "proved setup" does the talking on track and strip - we live and learn, lol i appreciate all feedback, and would never dismiss any thanks
jef Posted August 23, 2011 Author Posted August 23, 2011 reading your post again, im sure its a bosch 044 pump? with suitable wiring upgrade? off the top of my head no swirl pot set up tho.
colin_ross Posted August 24, 2011 Posted August 24, 2011 Looking good some nice parts there. I think you will have a problem with your fuel lines as they stand. The ones from the fuel rails to the T-Pieces look fine but the other two look too short to do anything. You will need a feed from the hard pipe on the pax inner wing to the first T-Piece which will be your pressure feed. Then from the T-piece that will be your return line to the FPR which preferably should have AN unions fitted, then another line from the FPR to the return hard pipe on the pax inner wing. You've missed out a hop Archie. The hard line should pass through the filter first. That may have been relocated so may be closer than the standard location. For simplicities sake I prefer to use the FPR to tee the rail return lines back together. That and the less joints you have the safer the fuel system will be. Oh, and because those unions are bloooooody expensive. The fuel system may be man enough for the power levels stated but it's too close for comfort for my liking. I'd twin pump it from the off as a second mapping session, to go to full power after upgrading the system, would cost the same as installing the proper one in the first place IYSWIM.
arch Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 You've missed out a hop Archie. The hard line should pass through the filter first. That may have been relocated so may be closer than the standard location. For simplicities sake I prefer to use the FPR to tee the rail return lines back together. That and the less joints you have the safer the fuel system will be. Oh, and because those unions are bloooooody expensive. The fuel system may be man enough for the power levels stated but it's too close for comfort for my liking. I'd twin pump it from the off as a second mapping session, to go to full power after upgrading the system, would cost the same as installing the proper one in the first place IYSWIM. Valid points Colin but it wouldnt make any sense to me to put the filter in the engine bay. You use more hose returning 2 lines to the FPR unless its mounted on the manifold, I prefer to mount the FPR on the bulkhead out of the way, the hose and fittings are not that expensive if bought from the right place and made up yourself. I have already been advised I need to up my current single 044 to something with more capacity so this build will be compromised on a single 044 for definate. Not fitting a swirl pot on a project which will be used on track is a huge mistake.
fai17 Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 Agree with archie here. For 600+ you'll need twin pumps and swirl pot if using for tracks. It would be foolish to skimp on that the now.
jef Posted August 25, 2011 Author Posted August 25, 2011 thanks agian, some good reading im not sure where people aregetting 600bhp set up. the aim is 550bhp and the subsequent parts have been built to this power level. if i was lucky id top out jst over 550bhp. but i budgeted only for this level, as upping to 600bhp and more, would ioncurr a fair bit more cost that i wanted. so to track my car, you guys wouldnt do that without a swirl pot and multiple pump set up?
arch Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 thanks agian, some good reading im not sure where people aregetting 600bhp set up. the aim is 550bhp and the subsequent parts have been built to this power level. if i was lucky id top out jst over 550bhp. but i budgeted only for this level, as upping to 600bhp and more, would ioncurr a fair bit more cost that i wanted. so to track my car, you guys wouldnt do that without a swirl pot and multiple pump set up? You need to say what turbo you are using you have been asked but didnt say, its impossible to advise without all the info. If your retaining the standard fuel tank then you need a swirl pot if the car is going onto a track to be used competatively, otherwise you WILL get fuel surge. There are also a world of other things you need to think about in terms of whats fitted depending on what class you are putting the car into.
jef Posted August 25, 2011 Author Posted August 25, 2011 apologies i seem to have missed that - turbo's a gt35r billet the car is a road car, with occasioanl track use only. it will spend 90% on road. with 1 or 2 track days, per year, along with probably more 1/4mile runs. its a weeknd toy only. hope that give a better idea. looking back, what ive posted does imply otherwise, my apologies, because this is not the case. it will never be in competition classes ect. so for what i intend , would you guys say the propsed set up is adequate? cheers
arch Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 In my opinion you will need more than a single 044 for that Turbo. Swirl pot prob not required given your usage you will just need to manage the fuel levels in the tank. You should really be directing the questions relating to pump and injector suitability to Andy preferably before you buy them.
jef Posted August 26, 2011 Author Posted August 26, 2011 cheers arch im just on here doing background ifno before i mention anything to my builder, then i stand educated when i mention this or that, so appreciate your ccomments jef
stuarted Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 for a car that's going to be 90% road use would a GT30 not be a better suited turbo on a 2.1?
jef Posted August 26, 2011 Author Posted August 26, 2011 i honestly dont know but its not the advice my builder gave me. saying they regularly knock out this spec of engine running that turbo. its the smaller exhaust housing on it .63 that plus good mapping is apparantly a good enough combo to make it work. if im driving hard, i use to gears to elimate lag if im not then boost isnt important. that said, once its done ill post up dyno graphs and see how it compares to anyone, running a similar spec on a gt30 for comparison
stuarted Posted August 27, 2011 Posted August 27, 2011 look forward to seeing the results. How painful is it waiting to get a car back!?!?!
jef Posted August 27, 2011 Author Posted August 27, 2011 haha very mate but prob not as painful as running it in lol
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