kaylz_555 Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 (edited) Here's some pics of the new car Not been able to get other pics on yet but these are the ones from the showroom before we took it away. Will get some new pics before the end of the week! It's currently got 17's, magnex exhaust and an absolutely mint interior that won't be getting touched until the pods go in (turbo timer etc) It's going into Hypertech shortly to get: Anti-lift kit Rear bar (adjustable) 24mm Rear drop links Fast road Geometry setup (edited) -hehe! Wallbro 255 fuel pump Turbo timer (incl lap timer boost guage etc) For just now list will continue I'm sure! Also a question if anyone can help... I've got a rear spoiler and roof spoiler for a classic and was hoping to put it on - is the fit the same i.e. measurements for the bolts, width etc or is it different? If it comes to it I'll just need to measure it! Trial and error :S If not they'll be up for sale Cheers Kaylz + G Edited August 17, 2008 by kaylz_555
thewelsho Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Geographical set up? I think you mean geometry. Can't advise you on the spoilers but I'd suggest dropping the fuel-pump and getting droplinks fitted all round as opposed to just rear. You don't need the uprated pump and you will see more benefit from the droppies front and rear. Hope your spoilers fit cause I really don't like the standard WRX one - that was the first thing to go on my WRX. Nice car, hope you enjoy it
DR Motosport Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 The rear roof spoiler, if it's like those fitted to the hawk-eye STi's won't fit The new age cars are wider by about 2"' The boot spoiler won't fit either. The classic has a flatter boot lid with a slight curve, but the new ages curve up at the ends so would leave a big gap along the centre. Bad news, sorry.
kaylz_555 Posted August 17, 2008 Author Posted August 17, 2008 Cheers guys, but I hate to say it Welsho...I know Duncan and think a lot of people would agree to trust his wisdom He's designed it to our specification...how we want it to drive not the way someone else thinks it should be..so there!
RS Grant Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Cheers guys, but I hate to say it Welsho...I know Duncan and think a lot of people would agree to trust his wisdom He's designed it to our specification...how we want it to drive not the way someone else thinks it should be..so there! Thats you told JW!!! Looks like a nice base for a few tasteful mods. Cheers, Grant
superstar_tradesman Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 nice looking car but you should have stuck wi a classic. If you fancy some nice mudflaps for it at a reasonable price let me know.
kaylz_555 Posted August 17, 2008 Author Posted August 17, 2008 nice looking car but you should have stuck wi a classic. If you fancy some nice mudflaps for it at a reasonable price let me know. PM prices mate, Cheers P.S classic will be back in a couple of years aswell just needed something a bit more reliable! Oh..and with a turbo lol
thewelsho Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Cheers guys, but I hate to say it Welsho...I know Duncan and think a lot of people would agree to trust his wisdom He's designed it to our specification...how we want it to drive not the way someone else thinks it should be..so there! Duncan advised me to change the droplinks as well and he said front and rear. If the car is not mapped and running standard power, I can't see the need for an uprated pump. My car was running 340 bhp with the standard pump with no problems.
st3ph3n Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Clean looking car. Much prefer the front splitters not colour-coded though.
arch Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 IMO pump is a waste of time at standard power levels on a newish car ! I was advised to leave the standard pump in by someone with a much bigger brain than me
kaylz_555 Posted August 18, 2008 Author Posted August 18, 2008 Duncan advised me to change the droplinks as well and he said front and rear. If the car is not mapped and running standard power, I can't see the need for an uprated pump. My car was running 340 bhp with the standard pump with no problems. He's advised me different.
braveheart Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 Ohhh a newage lol glad you and the fellow are happy with it, you cant beat a classic tho...
fai17 Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 nice one......best to leave the engine standard so it last forever
thewelsho Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 IMO pump is a waste of time at standard power levels on a newish car ! I was advised to leave the standard pump in by someone with a much bigger brain than me Thank you! nice one......best to leave the engine standard so it last forever You don't really beleive that Peter, do you?
emoe Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 He's advised me different. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
kaylz_555 Posted August 18, 2008 Author Posted August 18, 2008 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT LOL!!! To be honest mate, I'm going to someone I know and trust. I put up the pictures to let you all see it and let you into what's happening with it. Don't really like being pestered with silly comments, getting told what to do with it...did you buy it? I'm not a sheep. Baaaah! More likely to be a cow or a female dog ..thank you and I'll take it in my own stride with the bits that are changed. If I want drop links on the back and not the front because it currently suits me then that's up to the boy and I. If I wanted you to "judge" my influence on my car then I would kindly ask - NOT just expect it. Like it or lump it... I'm driving it. Mooooo!!!! Cheers
~ ~ Cal ~~ Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 Walbro deffo not needed unless your remapping the engine in future - even then you'll not need it really unless going for a ) above 300 bhp and b ) for engine safety purposes Nice chariot though ! Enjoy
pmacFTO Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Hmm...fair enough you don't want JW's opinion but you've steamed in a bit heavy there - most people agree (and they ARE Hypertech customers too as am I and Welsho) that you do not need a Walbro pump at standard or even a bit higher power. I have one but running 300bhp and most people said I didn't need it untill I was pushing 350bhp. I'd hardly say that you were being pestered by "silly comments". There are a lot of very experienced knowledgeable people on here and if you don't agree with their opinion that's cool but maybe just phrase it a bit differently? Nobody was judging your influence - just suggesting you MAY not need the pump. There are a lot of people who get Scoobys who may not know a lot about them and this is the kind of place people offer advice - we don't know your background or your level of knowledge about the cars - people are just trying to be helpful.
st3ph3n Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 The JW speaketh from experience too. He's broken just about everything on that car of his! I'm running 290/290 WITH a Walbro. I'm also running droplinks all round and have been for quite some time. It's a mod that's WELL worth doing once and doing it right.
thewelsho Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Hmm...fair enough you don't want JW's opinion but you've steamed in a bit heavy there - most people agree (and they ARE Hypertech customers too as am I and Welsho) that you do not need a Walbro pump at standard or even a bit higher power. I have one but running 300bhp and most people said I didn't need it untill I was pushing 350bhp.I'd hardly say that you were being pestered by "silly comments". There are a lot of very experienced knowledgeable people on here and if you don't agree with their opinion that's cool but maybe just phrase it a bit differently? Nobody was judging your influence - just suggesting you MAY not need the pump. There are a lot of people who get Scoobys who may not know a lot about them and this is the kind of place people offer advice - we don't know your background or your level of knowledge about the cars - people are just trying to be helpful. Well said.
WUZ Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) I can understand the reasoning behind both arguements but lets try to put it into perspective here. On car about 3 years or older, the pump is starting to get tired (just as we all have as we've got older) and a fresh healthly young pump is always going to be fitter for the engine, especially if its having to work harder. Safety built into a pump that can run the required fuel at the required pressure so as to not die on you on a high speed run with injectors flat out and then................................ no fuel..............guess what's next............... lean running, etc, etc. Newage has the ECU ability to control voltage to the ECU and hence flow rate so it (if mapped suitably) will not overfuel because of the pump. If the OE pump was good enough for standard and slighty modded scoobs, why is the fuel pump uprated on the PPP conversions? Worth thinking about. BETTER TO FIT SOMETHING THAT MAY NEVER PROVE ITSELF NECESSARY IN DAY-TO-DAY RUNNING THAN NOT FIT IT AND FIND THAT IT COSTS YOU AN ENGINE REBUILD IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Food for thought Russell ps - I NEVER FORCE SOMEONE TO BUY OR FIT A PUMP - I always put my side across to punters but let them make the final choice........ but all bills that people get for the work done (who warrant fitting a new pump), those who don't get a pump fitted have a little warning placed on their receipts, ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH 10 YEAR OLD CARS.................... THAT CAN BE ONE TIRED, OLD PUMP!!!!! Edited August 19, 2008 by WUZ
kaylz_555 Posted August 19, 2008 Author Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) Hmm...fair enough you don't want JW's opinion but you've steamed in a bit heavy there - most people agree (and they ARE Hypertech customers too as am I and Welsho) that you do not need a Walbro pump at standard or even a bit higher power. I have one but running 300bhp and most people said I didn't need it untill I was pushing 350bhp.I'd hardly say that you were being pestered by "silly comments". There are a lot of very experienced knowledgeable people on here and if you don't agree with their opinion that's cool but maybe just phrase it a bit differently? Nobody was judging your influence - just suggesting you MAY not need the pump. There are a lot of people who get Scoobys who may not know a lot about them and this is the kind of place people offer advice - we don't know your background or your level of knowledge about the cars - people are just trying to be helpful. The car is initially going in for these parts, this was what we have planned for the moment. I didn't want to give you the full spec of what is planned because I'd rather list it when the time was approaching to have it done. We will need the pump in the future hence the reason we're having it fitted just now. I didn't feel it was necessary to explain why I was having it done. It is also useful to have as it is new and can handle more until the time comes. It wouldn't be recommended if it wasn't useful to have even if the car is under 300bhp. Think about it. Maybe I did lash out a bit and I apologise but I just hate it when as soon as you put something on this website there's a list of criticisms that follow, rather than suggestions. I do appreciate those of you who are only trying to help and I would do the same. I don't really see the point in continually trying to state a point when I've already decided the outcome. My partner is also an Engineer and is more than capable of knowing where to go. I also am knowledgeable about Subaru's and various machinery due to my upbringing, but I didn't think I had to state that before people would listen? Anyway I don't know if this helps you out on your understanding and perhaps might uncross any wires - that have caused this disagreement: Once the list has been carried out there will be new: Sti Injectors Fuel pressure regulator Sti intercooler (not decided on front or top) New uprated turbo Re-map (not mild) - (mild sitting at 355bhp) Will be also doing other engine modifications and boosting the torque in other ways possible but this will be next year. I hope this helps you understand slightly better. Arguement over - what's the point? - Life's too short and at the moment so is the budget!!!! Can we at least agree on that? On car about 3 years or older, the pump is starting to get tired (just as we all have as we've got older) and a fresh healthly young pump is always going to be fitter for the engine, especially if its having to work harder.Safety built into a pump that can run the required fuel at the required pressure so as to not die on you on a high speed run with injectors flat out and then................................ no fuel..............guess what's next............... lean running, etc, etc. Newage has the ECU ability to control voltage to the ECU and hence flow rate so it (if mapped suitably) will not overfuel because of the pump. If the OE pump was good enough for standard and slighty modded scoobs, why is the fuel pump uprated on the PPP conversions? Worth thinking about. BETTER TO FIT SOMETHING THAT MAY NEVER PROVE ITSELF NECESSARY IN DAY-TO-DAY RUNNING THAN NOT FIT IT AND FIND THAT IT COSTS YOU AN ENGINE REBUILD IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Food for thought Russell Thanks also for your input. Edited August 19, 2008 by kaylz_555
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