Just To Be On The Safe Side.....

[the_cueball]

I got some new disks and pads for my sick scoobie, and just to be on the safe side, I decided to get some parts from my local Subaru dealer:

Pad retaining pins x4

Cross springs x2

Pad clips x2

Spacers x2

£75......Ouch!!!!!

These cost more than the disks and pads!

Because the pads and disks are so worn, I had to get the above as a stop gap until I get the big brake upgrade.

I was going to get the HiSpec conversion, but I am now considering the Tarox 10 pot upgrade as well.

Does anyone else know of any other kits that work well with the Imprezas?

Cheers

CB

[the squiggle]

I got some new disks and pads for my sick scoobie, and just to be on the safe side, I decided to get some parts from my local Subaru dealer:

Pad retaining pins x4

Cross springs x2

Pad clips x2

Spacers x2

£75......Ouch!!!!!

These cost more than the disks and pads!

Because the pads and disks are so worn, I had to get the above as a stop gap until I get the big brake upgrade.

I was going to get the HiSpec conversion, but I am now considering the Tarox 10 pot upgrade as well.

Does anyone else know of any other kits that work well with the Imprezas?

Cheers

CB

Get a set of AP's and be done with it

[thefastone]

Well exactly as has just been said you know the cost of the gear if you've had all these modded cars. just buy the bits you need instead of wasting money on a "stop gap". whats your point?

there are plenty of kits around that are very good got the money, the 6-pot APs have been mentioned, but there are plenty of cheaper alternatives.

Everything is not a drama...

[the_cueball]

Well exactly as has just been said you know the cost of the gear if you've had all these modded cars. just buy the bits you need instead of wasting money on a "stop gap". whats your point?

there are plenty of kits around that are very good got the money, the 6-pot APs have been mentioned, but there are plenty of cheaper alternatives.

Everything is not a drama...

I wasn't aware I was trying to make it a drama.....

I am well aware of the price of brakes, but I asked if anyone had done a similar upgrade that worked, to possible save me from buying the wrong kit.

just so that you are aware, the point of "wasting money" on my stop gap, is that:

a) My current brakes are s**t and dangerous.

I don't have the money for the upgrade kit right at this moment in time.

So instead of driving around in a dangerous car, I thought I would get some standard items, I can't see how that is a waste of time.

I was actually shocked at the price of the clips from Subaru, and cannot see how they cost that much (for example, the clips for my M5 only cost £20 from a main dealer), hence the reason for my post, nothing more.

Thanks for your help thefastone, but in future, I would prefer you keep your sarcastic comments to yourself.

I thought that was what forums like this were all about, people asking for help and exchanging ideas.....maybe I am wrong - maybe it is just the Subaru one that seems to be full of arrogant people who think they been there and bought the t-shirt.

CB

[frank c]

There are one or two group buys on Scoobynet that might be worth a look.

[l2 nrm]

full of arrogant people who think they been there and bought the t-shirt.

i wouldnt say that there alot of very helpfull friendly people in here!you will always get affogant people in any situation just have to learn to ignore then!

now chill out befor admin give you a

any way any brake upgrade has to beat standard fitted ones

unsure what ones would be best tho

[thefastone]

Sorry chap, No meant to offend, I just felt that the 2 threads that you have posted have started overly negative, and as I've not see you post anything else, I can only see one kind of attitude, and thats mostly negative... Anyway, Like has been said, we can be very helpful, so...

Really brakes wise, depends on what you want and the budget that you have, Generally the 6-pot APs are the favoured amongst most on here, Personally I have the Prodrive 330mm Conversion, I think that its good, although I think that upgrading the pads again to the Ferodo DS2500 will make them better. I've not used the APs so I cant give comment on the difference.

But if you dont want to splash the cash, and I suspect that you do, as you have already mentioned an expensive kit... there are plenty of very good kits for a lot less money, I'm afraid that I cant think of any off the top of my head, as Ive too many other things on at the moment to remember, but someone else should be able to suggest something for you...

[the_cueball]

Sorry chap, No meant to offend, I just felt that the 2 threads that you have posted have started overly negative, and as I've not see you post anything else, I can only see one kind of attitude, and thats mostly negative... Anyway, Like has been said, we can be very helpful, so...

Really brakes wise, depends on what you want and the budget that you have, Generally the 6-pot APs are the favoured amongst most on here, Personally I have the Prodrive 330mm Conversion, I think that its good, although I think that upgrading the pads again to the Ferodo DS2500 will make them better. I've not used the APs so I cant give comment on the difference.

But if you dont want to splash the cash, and I suspect that you do, as you have already mentioned an expensive kit... there are plenty of very good kits for a lot less money, I'm afraid that I cant think of any off the top of my head, as Ive too many other things on at the moment to remember, but someone else should be able to suggest something for you...

Well we have obviously got off on the wrong foot!

I didn't want to sound negative, but I have wanted an impreza for over a decade now, and because I wanted one so much I have always kept away (kind of like the whole great gatsby thing)...

When I finally got one - obviously not the best!! - it was a kind of let down. But nothing I can't fix...with some help/time/money/miracles!!!!

I think most people like the AP kit, so I'll cheak that out. don't mind spending some money on them - I really really work my brakes, so they need to work hard!!

anyway, thanks for the info, hope we have cleared the air now.....

CB

[thefastone]

[seafar99]

Wilwood also do a reasonably priced upgrade brake kit.

[thefastone]

Oh and whilst I'm at it, would probably be worth your while to fit Goodridge Hoses whilst you are at it!

Oh and as I was just on, I notice that Scoobyparts have the Prodrive 330mm kit for £1500 now, about the same as you will pay at the dealers before discount... first time I've seen it anywhere except the dealers... and scooobyworld have the AP kit for £1600 - but you can get it a LOT cheaper than that I think...

Speaking of which mate, You know about being a member mate, you get a 10% discount from the main dealers (ther is a list somewhere) and its also listed in True grip, the membership pays for itself really, worth getting if your going to spend any pennies on your car from them and a few other places...

Edited January 5, 2008 by thefastone

[the squiggle]

Decent pads and discs are a good starting point

If the funds allow a set of 6 pots AP's will handle a great deal of abuse if thats your thing

[oobster]

I've heard Alyn at AS Performance is a good guy to have a chat with about brakes - prices seem pretty decent too.

http://www.asperformance.com/

[johnnyr6]

As grant says good oe discs with good pads ( ferrodo ds2500's) are a good starting point. Don't know what you've got fitted at the mo but if it's 2 pots (early classic) then start by upgrading to the 4 pots from a later classic.

4 pots with good discs and good pads work very well and are a good starting point if you don't have over a grand to throw at brakes.

Johnny

[the_cueball]

Cheers for all the info...

10% off would help me I think....my local dealer may become my best friend for bits and bobs....

As for the brakes, I guess my options are:

AP

Wilwood

Prodrive upgrade

and then the ones I am looking into:

HiSpec

Tarox

soo many choices....

I'll also budget for new hoses, fluid etc...

Thefastone, did you do anything with your rears brakes except bleed them when you got the upgrade?

I was going to, at least, get new disks and pads at the same time.....

CB

[thefastone]

Yeah at the same time I did the Goodridge hoses all round and put DS2500 pads in the back...

[boris b]

Interesting stuff. Keep the advice coming folks....

Not looking to hijack your thread tho mate

I'm currently looking for advice to help my car stop as well. I don't have a lot of dosh tho.

Noticed that i can get a set of disks for £160 ish on ebay amongst other sites.. What pads tho.

I don't do a whole lot of miles... Just the wife and my cousin have both had a shot of the car recently and were scared sh##less when they tried to stop...

I presume classics have keek standard brakes..

[AlanG]

I would think what brakes to go for really depends on what use you're going to put the car through and what sort of power you've got or are aiming for.

AP 6 pots, Alcons, Willwoods etc are all very well, but i'd ask if you *really* needed them.

In my case I had the AP 304mm 4 pots, but brakes faded badly on a track day after 2 laps. In hindsight, it should have been the pads i looked at, but instead opted for the expensive AP 6 pots. I don't regret the 6 pots, they were stunning brakes, but expensive when i could probably have saved a load of dosh by looking into pads for the 4 pot AP's.

The thing is though, I *wanted* the 6 pots. A few reasons. They were the bees knees when they came out and looked stunning. They worked brilliantly. They gave me retail therapy.... feature creep if you like.

To answer the two chaps on here, ask yourself what you intend to do. If you don't have shedloads of power and only use it for road, i'd look at pads and keep to std discs assuming you've got the std Subaru 4 pots on the car. If not, get some secondhand.

On track? I still think pad material is more important than fancy discs, but depending on power and number of laps at a time, it's probably worthwhile going for some bigger discs to dissipate the heat better. On the classics, they're 290 odd mm diameter, so make it worth your while, buy going up to 330mm (if you've got 17's)

Oh, and about the dealer thing with getting odd bits and pieces. As you've seen this can be expensive. I see you're in EK, so not a million miles away from Paisley. I'd be inclined to go down to the Subaru breakers in Neilston Road for that kind of stuff. They're very helpful.

Edited January 5, 2008 by AlanG

[boris b]

To answer the two chaps on here, ask yourself what you intend to do. If you don't have shedloads of power and only use it for road, i'd look at pads and keep to std discs assuming you've got the std Subaru 4 pots on the car. If not, get some secondhand.

Sounds good for me mate..

What pads would be best for a nearly standard 99 wagon ?

[thefastone]

I belive that from previous threads people are fairly set on the Ferodo DS2500... I've put them on my rears already and I'll put then on the fronts too when the time comes...

Edit: Oh yeah forgot, I seem to remember someone commenting on the EBC red stuff eating their discs...

Edited January 5, 2008 by thefastone

[johnnyr6]

Ds2500's are good, i tried ebc yellow stuff and really liked them but on track they heat up enough to kill standard discs.

[boris b]

Ds2500's are good, i tried ebc yellow stuff and really liked them but on track they heat up enough to kill standard discs.

Cheers for that..

Any specific place does good deals or is it a case of shop around.?

[frank c]

Kit, try oobsters' link..Alyn ay ASPerformance

He'll give you good advice over the phone

[boris b]

Cheers matey. Will do.

[AlanG]

As said in other posts, for the majority you won't go far wrong with the DS2500's. They are not bad in terms of brake dust, they last well and do a good job.

Personally, I didn't like the Mintex 1155's i had with the 4 pots. They were alright for road, but woeful on track which surprised me, as over the years i had always preferred Mintex stuff over Ferodo.

As an aside, imo, i wouldn't bother with the back of the car. At all. At 600 odd bhp, i still ran std discs and pads on the back. No issues. So unless you've got disposable income and in need of retail therapy to make you feel good and you want to "match up" the back to the front or you want bigger discs/pads in the belief of better braking, then go ahead. You may well have "better" braking, but in terms of cost/benefit, it will be minimal compared to the front. Save the pennies and spend on something more useful.