like i said above i was sawing sticks in my bed when this happened and wasnt there, so cant comment on what might have happened, but ive been on quite a few runs over the years and there is always a bit of spirited driving, the diffrence this time is somebody has brought it up in another forum and it seems to be spreading, if anybody has ever been on a run and not been past 60 or 70 (what ever the speed limit might dictate) hold your hands up now there will maybe (but i very much doubt it) be one or two who hasnt, but i can guarantee 99% of folks have pushed it a little bit, may i also point out for any body looking in it was a non SIDC run and nothing to do with this club what so ever