arch Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 I have a phase one set up so dont have the coil pack on top of the manifold. In my opinion you would be much better ditching the current coil set up and going to newage coil packs. It will save you space and will future proof things. As I said previously keeping your current power steering set up is going to cause you problems.
jef Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 ok mate, thanks for that, i just wanted shot of the old set up where the coils kept cracking, and causing missfire under boost, didnt realise the new age set up was better cheers:)
jef Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 love the pics btw would love some more if you guys have any? cheers
braveheart Posted November 5, 2011 Posted November 5, 2011 Hi Jeff have too Agree with Arch and Colin my friend and in my oppinion you need to run the new age coil set upset up i have this on my car and had no issues only problems i had issues with was i had missfiring and could not think why was running 7bs at the time and was told this was good for the set up i was running, and some folk do still run them changed my plugs to racing 8s and now and thats all the problem was plugs ....now runs well..
ciaranrb5 Posted November 5, 2011 Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) Its a good idea while the car is in bit's I managed to get 4 coil packs and an newage AVCS loom for under £100 off the bay so not expensive either Edited November 5, 2011 by ciaranrb5
jef Posted November 7, 2011 Author Posted November 7, 2011 well the caliper issue has been happily resolved even though i wasnt origional buyer, nor did i have a receipt or proof of purchase, compbrake arranged collection of calipers for inspection, then supplied me with a brand new set of calipers, all within a week cant ask for more than that great service - and i applaud companies which deserve praise. couldve easily fought me all the way, claiming id modified/altered/fitted incorrectly ect - but no, without question sent out a brand new set so thanks to compbrake for that
jef Posted November 16, 2011 Author Posted November 16, 2011 few updates, new calipers and engine bay shots well happy with things so far, cant wait to get her back, run in and usable for next year.
jef Posted November 16, 2011 Author Posted November 16, 2011 also big thnks to compbrake supplying me with 2 brand new calipers, even though i wasnt origional purchaser and no receipt. they arranged colletion and had 2 new calipers back in 2 days - great service.
arch Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Looking good some nice touches there. The only point I would make is I def wouldnt have routed the compressor outlet hose the way you have the sharp bend at the outlet is not the best idea. Think about what your actually trying to do with the air in the compressor stage and what a right angle like that will do. Thats the reason people have advised you to relocate your power steering resevoir to avoid the very scenario you now have.
jef Posted November 17, 2011 Author Posted November 17, 2011 cheers arch yeah understand the turbo to i/c pipework, a few reasons its like that first my i/c inlets and outlets are at bottom of i/c as opossed to top on some set ups second, because i asked for that coil pack, clearnace between coil pack and bonnet was an issue, had to get thinner thermal spacers, and so space under inlet was reduced, its now too small to fit pipework - plus the obv power steering pump. not 100% sure thats the final outlet position of the turbo pipework. either way itll stay as it is until its back and run in and set up. if theres any obvious issue i may consider changing at later date. but for the time being itll stay as is. im happy with things, and confident itll do what i want it to. cheers for comments
colin_ross Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 first my i/c inlets and outlets are at bottom of i/c as opossed to top on some set ups second, because i asked for that coil pack, clearnace between coil pack and bonnet was an issue, had to get thinner thermal spacers, and so space under inlet was reduced, its now too small to fit pipework - plus the obv power steering pump. This is a great example of the issues you come accross when making major modifications. Something that seems ok at an early stage comes back to bite you later on, so you change that and find yourself with new problems and so on. The best cure is to speak to those who have done it before, listen hard, or find yourself destined to repeat their mistakes. If you don't mind redoing things and your more interested in the experience or the learning curve then please ignore me and enjoy.
arch Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) Agree Colin. Your intercooler pipework is at the bottom because you havnt flipped it so the pipes are at the top but that has no bearing anyway on the outlet of the compressor. The coil pack and power steering resevoir are easy to relocate with zero performance issues. The compressor outlet pipework will have no"obvious issue" but there will be a penalty to pay. Edited November 17, 2011 by Arch
jef Posted November 18, 2011 Author Posted November 18, 2011 please no-one take this offensivley, my psts are never ment in that way, i agree its things you dont anticipate that cause set backs - or just things (like me) that i dont know or havent experienced and others have. i hear you all and i do apprciate your feedback - im not an idiot, i served my time as a mechanic and workd in the trade for 9 years before going to college to do an honours degree in automotive mechanical engineering - which btw i dropped out after a year lol. but yes i am very much a try it first an see for myself type of person. as youve all probbly guessed. and ive absolutley no problem coming back and agreeing with everyone once its back, and ive swapped the turbo to a 30r or changed pipework ect. but that will only be done after ive experienced the car. and if im not happy. i dont know if thats the final compressor housing position, and i dont know if there are any other resons why pipe work will end up the way it does, ive just paid someone to build me a set up. i do know that the feul rail feed means theres even less space for i/c pipework under the inlet ive seen the pics posted above of the more direct i/c feeds - however i do also trust my builder to give me what i asked of him. ill happily accept what he does and go from there. i really dont thnk ill be disappointed. the biggest problem for me now is mapping it, as it will be done on the road, is this even going to be possible in the proabale weather conditions ahead? thanks again for the input people i do honstly appreciate it, even if you think i dont lol
jef Posted November 18, 2011 Author Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) just to add, colin your totally right in that i actually enjoy the learning as i go, plus i absolutley belive in trying everything yourself before making up my mind, im like that with most things in life, barr herion ect lol. the peronal experience is half the fun, and the car is ultimatley a toy, its there to be played with, fettled as you go - again adding to overall enjoyment of the experience lol probably a lot wont understand that and be laughing at it/me, but thats just me haha Edited November 18, 2011 by jef
colin_ross Posted November 18, 2011 Posted November 18, 2011 Not at all mate. If thats your thing then who am I to tell you what to do with your car or cash. It's an iteresting build so I'll continue to watch and maybe chip in here and there (if that's ok) but if you're happy then feel free to ignore. Out of interest, if you're a time served mechanic why are you farming the work out? I'm an absolute liability with a spanner but with a little (lot of) help put mine together in my garage.
arch Posted November 18, 2011 Posted November 18, 2011 I suppose some of my posts may appear negative its genuinely not the intention. Certainly from my point of view I have been lucky in having good people around me to advise me and wanted to try and help stop what in my opinion, and it is only one opinion, may turn out to be things you will later change and incur expense in doing so. I try to do thing right the first time as the money invested in these cars is never recovered and the cost of changes soon add up. Specing a car for a season of hills and sprints only to find rule changes mean expense in adapting to fit rules is bad enough but having to redo something you have paid to have done is not a good scenario. As an analogy if you were building a house and had sub contracted the building work to a builder and decided to project manage it yourself. Would you simply give the builder the plans on day one and say, build me that and walk away until it was built. Live in the house and then discover, i don't like this or that and have to redo it.
fai17 Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 Good point Archie. But sometimes it's difficult to get a engine builder to do what you like as they have their ideas too. Where as when you are DIY you do as you please and want.
jef Posted November 19, 2011 Author Posted November 19, 2011 honestly i really do appreciate and enjoy the comments ect be they negative or posiitve. and i can see it could be quite frustrating for some people when ther giving geniune advice from experience ect, and it looks like im dismissing - im relly not. i understand how engines work, ive studied a lot in the past 10 years - but im never ready to dismiss /or accept until ive tried persoanlly. its not 2 fingers up to people commenting atall - and i really hope people do continue to chip in - ive learned from some guys here. its just im perfectly happy to accpet my build as it comes and assess. the build is not constrained by time/rules and to an extent money. although its not a bottomless pit lol. the car will never recoupe the money ive put in, ive never expected it to. and its not an investment, just a hobby. for above asking why dont build myself, i dont have the time/space/tools or knowlege to do anything like this on my driveway. and in the fortunate position to be able to pay someone to do it. plus as soon as i changed career i sold all my snap on tools and vowed id never work on another car as long as i lived lol apprentiships werent that enjoyable in my day haha so anyone feel free to chip in, agree/disagree, fcking laugh if you want lol, i enjoy the feedback and comments cheers
jef Posted December 20, 2011 Author Posted December 20, 2011 just to let people know, still underway. just about all completed, and waiting on the new simtek from steve, for which ill be chasing him lol. hope to get it in, get a base/running in map set up at teg, then get up here run in and get andy to do the final job. pics of the almost finished article will hopefully follow shortly hope to update sooon, and show the final result. with RR results being posted as and when the time comes. i wont let this thread die until ive managed to post all relevant results cheers
jef Posted January 11, 2012 Author Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) wery wery close, and wery wery excited, steve simpson be mapping on latest simtek in next week or so few shots, Edited January 11, 2012 by jef
scooby222 Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 looking good! should be quite the weapon you must be bouncing lol
colin_ross Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 looks tidy - a couple of close up engine bay shots please.
jef Posted January 11, 2012 Author Posted January 11, 2012 probably be when i get it back now mate, but i certainly will when its here
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