liathich Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Hi, My '95 Classic Turbo Waggon has suddenly developed a non starting problem. One minute it will start, then next time the engine turns over ok but doesnt fire up or even try to. Nothing obviously wrong or disconnected under bonnet. Most puzzling. End result cant use the car in case it doesnt start. Any ideas folks??
nightmare Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 when you turn the ignition on are you getting light on the dash are they out sometimes or will it just fail to turn over a bit more info needed
liathich Posted May 19, 2010 Author Posted May 19, 2010 Hi, Yes i get dash lights as per normal, then when i try to start the engine it spins over ok as per normal but doesnt fire up or even try to. Just keeps turning over. A couple of tries later it fires up as per normal and runs as per normal. Leave it for a while and it may start up as per normal but it may not. There doesnt seem to be any consistency as to whether it starts or not. Nothing worse as i just cant trust it enough to run it anywhere and be sure of it restarting. Noticed the other day that it took a few more turns of the engine before it fired up which is not normal. Then yesterday after a short run in town when i went to start it i got the turning over but no start up. Tried it a couple of times and then it fired up as per normal. First thing this morning it started ok, switched off then tried to restart it but got the no start problem again. Then a normal start.?????
nightmare Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) when you turn the ignition on does your fuel pump prime itself you should here it the way you state the problem this sounds like a fuel system issue fuel pump maybe on the way out or a week spark somewhere one of the 2 Edited May 19, 2010 by nightmare
Midnight21 Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Know the feeling!!! My wagon has been giving me problems lately but think its the immobilser I cringe going for fuel in case it wont start again!!!!!....... but when it used to before, it was a sensor check yourself on this http://www.scoobypedia.co.uk/index.php/Kno...ngECUCodes#toc3 its easy Edited May 19, 2010 by Midnight21
Joe G Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Had a similar problem with my last classic. Fuel pump didnt prime then next time it would prime no probs. Ended up sourcing the problem to the connector block under the rear bench where the power wires go to the fuel pump. Connector was loose.
bobbyc Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Can be a common problem with these old beasties, if it's not fuel related could be your crank sensor playing up had similar issues with the RA had the sensors changed & never looked back
mk1cos Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 we had a problem similar to this on the rally car, sometimes it would start on the button, then it would decide to just turn over and not start, usually at the stage start !!!! but would start with a shove....???? turned out to be the cam sensor. fitted another and never had any issues since
frankyboy Posted May 20, 2010 Posted May 20, 2010 could you not put it on a computer and see if that flags anything up
Nicki Posted May 20, 2010 Posted May 20, 2010 used to have a similar problem with a renault i had, just took the hammer to the starter motor and it would go!!!!
liathich Posted May 20, 2010 Author Posted May 20, 2010 Guess what, she's started on the button every time today. Bloody thing. Have heard the pump priming each time, but of course i'll have to wait to when it doesnt start to see if i dont hear the pump. Will check the connector block under the rear seat. Will get the mechanic to check cam and crank sensors also. Nice to hear i'm not alone.
liathich Posted May 20, 2010 Author Posted May 20, 2010 Midnight 21 I applaude your technical abilities if you feel that the fault finding link is easy!! I'm afraid that my tired old eyes would have extreme difficulty distinguishing between 0.2 sec flashing sequences. lol. Way above my capabilities. I'll leave it to my mechanic i think. Cheers anyway.
Midnight21 Posted May 20, 2010 Posted May 20, 2010 Midnight 21 I applaude your technical abilities if you feel that the fault finding link is easy!! I'm afraid that my tired old eyes would have extreme difficulty distinguishing between 0.2 sec flashing sequences. lol. Way above my capabilities. I'll leave it to my mechanic i think. Cheers anyway. Rubbish..... if I can do it then anyone can the only difficult part is reaching under the dash at the foot well lol
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