Dalthegooner Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 This post isn't intended to be a personal affront to Pele, so I hope that no offence is taken from it, but is meant for the benefit of Kent Scoobies as a whole. Please post your thoughts, views and ideas on the subject keeping this thought in mind. In my opinion we need to have a new Regional Organiser. The clubs member base has grown significantly over the last couple of years and in order for us to move forward to the next level we need an organiser that is fully committed to the club. We need someone to put some effort into local meets. We could have rolling meets as well as static meets. Vary the days from just a Friday. I hardly ever make the meets as Friday is not a good day for me, and I am sure that there are others in the same boat. We need someone who actively organises our presence at Local and National events. Kent Scoobies needs to be actively promoted and we need someone who attends the majority of the events to do this. The final point I am going to make, and I am loathe to do this for fear of reducing what I consider to be an important topic into another pointless post, is Kent Scoobies Merchandise. We need someone that arranges Kent Scoobies Merchandise and makes it readily available for any or all members to buy. I don't think that the option has been enabled to allow us to have a poll so I can't attach one to this post so I guess that the easiest way to do this is for us to make a list of people who believe, as I do, that we need a new Regional Organiser that is actively involved in the club and can move us forward from being an unorganised shambles into a well presented and organised club. I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . . 1. Dalthegooner 2. 3. 4. 5.
mickyw1 Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 This post isn't intended to be a personal affront to Pele, so I hope that no offence is taken from it, but is meant for the benefit of Kent Scoobies as a whole. Please post your thoughts, views and ideas on the subject keeping this thought in mind. In my opinion we need to have a new Regional Organiser. The clubs member base has grown significantly over the last couple of years and in order for us to move forward to the next level we need an organiser that is fully committed to the club. We need someone to put some effort into local meets. We could have rolling meets as well as static meets. Vary the days from just a Friday. I hardly ever make the meets as Friday is not a good day for me, and I am sure that there are others in the same boat. We need someone who actively organises our presence at Local and National events. Kent Scoobies needs to be actively promoted and we need someone who attends the majority of the events to do this. The final point I am going to make, and I am loathe to do this for fear of reducing what I consider to be an important topic into another pointless post, is Kent Scoobies Merchandise. We need someone that arranges Kent Scoobies Merchandise and makes it readily available for any or all members to buy. I don't think that the option has been enabled to allow us to have a poll so I can't attach one to this post so I guess that the easiest way to do this is for us to make a list of people who believe, as I do, that we need a new Regional Organiser that is actively involved in the club and can move us forward from being an unorganised shambles into a well presented and organised club. I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . . 1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. 4. 5.
shrek Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 (edited) I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . . 1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. Shrek 4. 5. p.s. Time Attack at Brands Hatch in September, is an example of a great event, local to most of us, and yet only 4 Kent cars were there, but yet over 25 Essex cars arrived, all making the effort and with an organised stand. They all had their club t shirts on, banners and flags etc, and even the Brands Hatch marshall, commented that only 4 cars to the Kent stand was laughable. I have been a member for a few years now, and nothing has ever really been organised, unless Scoobytoo or Granby and Markie have put themselves forward to arrange days out and car shows etc. The only member that I can think of, who is fully committed to the club is really Granby, and maybe it is time for a change, and if he wants to, take over the reins. No offence to Pele as she has in the past done a lot for the club, but maybe now with her own commitments, she doesnt have the time which is needed. Edited September 23, 2007 by Shrek
eureka Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . .1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. Shrek 4. eureka 5. p.s. Time Attack at Brands Hatch in September, is an example of a great event, local to most of us, and yet only 4 Kent cars were there, but yet over 25 Essex cars arrived, all making the effort and with an organised stand. They all had their club t shirts on, banners and flags etc, and even the Brands Hatch marshall, commented that only 4 cars to the Kent stand was laughable. I have been a member for a few years now, and nothing has ever really been organised, unless Scoobytoo or Granby and Markie have put themselves forward to arrange days out and car shows etc. The only member that I can think of, who is fully committed to the club is really Granby, and maybe it is time for a change, and if he wants to, take over the reins. No offence to Pele as she has in the past done a lot for the club, but maybe now with her own commitments, she doesnt have the time which is needed.
eureka Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 dont be shy people this was the topic of conversation over the weekend and we all know what the answer is once again there is no disrespect to pele just we all want what is best for the club
Dalthegooner Posted September 23, 2007 Author Posted September 23, 2007 I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . . 1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. Shrek 4. eureka 5. I totally agree with Shrek with regards Granby taking the reigns if he's willing. Didn't want to put names forward or put any pressure on him at this early stage. But as his names on the floor now I'll give my vote of confidence
andy Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 I don't think that the option has been enabled to allow us to have a poll so I can't attach one to this post Start New Topic then "Poll Options Click here to manage this topic's poll" near the top.
mickyw1 Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 (edited) I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . .1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. Shrek 4. eureka 5. I totally agree with Shrek with regards Granby taking the reigns if he's willing. Didn't want to put names forward or put any pressure on him at this early stage. But as his names on the floor now I'll give my vote of confidence Yep have to agree with all that has been said especially pele doing a good job in the past .but like the time attack and today at uk modded pele was unable to be there!!! So i third Granby to take the reigns .if he is not to busy clogging up the road in his bus Edited September 23, 2007 by mickyw1
vickyk Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. Shrek 4. eureka 5. VickyK However I dont really think the club should necessarily be down to just one person, we should have a committee of a few people who each take on a specific role for organising as a club needs to be run by the club. Perhaps that is why pele appears to be struggling. But we need people who are committed to their club and willing to attend events to Promote it, lets face it is pretty embarrising when you go to an organised event and there are only a handful of cars.. condisdering the amount of people that are members, our members need to be made more aware of what is going on within plenty of time so we can arrange these things.
Scooby Hoo? Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Hi Guys and Gals. This is an open letter and meant as no more than, my personnel thoughts. I have only been a member of the SIDC for almost one year and do come along to Kent Scooby Club meets. I'm not aware that I am a member of KSC as I've never had to pay any fees or have been asked to sign up. So my first question is -1 is there a formal KSC 2 is there a charter 3 is there a committee. My understanding is that at the moment the club is organized by Pele, with no formal help from anybody else and that people can organize outings/meets at will. I think that I'm right when I say that I have noted occasions when Pele has asked for help, How much help and support has she received ? I don't know, although she has received a lot of criticism from a lot of us, myself included. Has anyone taken the time to ask Pele what her vision is for the future of the KSC and would she like to see KSC become a formally run Club with membership fees and a committee. If we are to have a KENT SCOOBY CLUB then it must not fall on the shoulders of one member to have to organize everything. Decisions should be made by a quorate of committee members. The Club should be run by voted members for the good of the members. Its a decision that only the guys and gals that turn up to the meets can make. I think that Pele should be given the opportunity to say how she would like to see the club move forward, we must bear in mind that, if not for Pele we might not be meeting. As nobody wanted to promote the club in the early years. Anyway thats only my thoughts. Now you can correct my mistakes as to the club's history.
tony_cousins Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 (edited) I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . . 1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. Shrek 4. eureka 5. And those who think Pele should keep the role 1. Pele 2. Loony Toon I do not think most people realise what Pele has done for the club, she has kept Kent Scoobies going through all the years even though she has had a few problems of her own !!!! When she has asked for help there have been promises but no one has ever come up with the goods. Now she has the support of a few members ( Big Jay,Scoots,Vickyk) who want to see the club move on and things are getting sorted out even if slowly. When things are arranged the club has a huge list of people but when the day arrives who actually turns up to the meets ? And as for being at every meet, some of you are lucky enough to earn good money and can afford these things but others do not and cannot commit the funds, not when there are more important things to pay for instead. Also why dont people have the balls to say these things to her face instead of all the backstabbing ??? And anyone can be Kent reginal organiser because as it state its for KENT and not KENTSCOOBIES Shame more time is not put into supporting the club , that way it would run better. Pele would accept all the help she can get but the offers are thin on the ground when it actually is asked for. Edited September 23, 2007 by Loony Toon
granby Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 However I dont really think the club should necessarily be down to just one person, we should have a committee of a few people who each take on a specific role for organising as a club needs to be run by the club. Perhaps that is why pele appears to be struggling. But we need people who are committed to their club and willing to attend events to Promote it, lets face it is pretty embarrising when you go to an organised event and there are only a handful of cars.. condisdering the amount of people that are members, our members need to be made more aware of what is going on within plenty of time so we can arrange these things. We have discussed before about having a committee and to be 100% honest we thought it would be more trouble than it's worth, it also shouldn't be the sole responsibility of the R/O to organise things as this is a club for members to participate in and arrange events themselves, for example Kent Modded & Bromley Pageant
markie Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . . 1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. Shrek 4. eureka 5. Markie When we joined in 2003 there was lots more organised events & varius other club activities to attend. Pele & her then husband Lee did a brilliant, job taking the club forward it did not seem to matter if you could not make an event as there was always plenty of other members to fill the spaces, the club now seems to struggle getting enthusiasm at most meetings and major events, this has been very evident over the last year or so. This possition needs to be undertaken by a person with time/ entusiasm/ & a vission to gell the club together, this all takes a lot of time & effort & resorses this i believe Pele lacks at this present time. These comments are nothing personal towards Pele, but we do feel as others do, that this club needs to move forwards & this seems to be the best way to go. Markie
markie Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . .1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. Shrek 4. eureka 5. And those who think Pele should keep the role 1. Pele 2. Loony Toon I do not think most people realise what Pele has done for the club, she has kept Kent Scoobies going through all the years even though she has had a few problems of her own !!!! When she has asked for help there have been promises but no one has ever come up with the goods. Now she has the support of a few members ( Big Jay,Scoots,Vickyk) who want to see the club move on and things are getting sorted out even if slowly. When things are arranged the club has a huge list of people but when the day arrives who actually turns up to the meets ? And as for being at every meet, some of you are lucky enough to earn good money and can afford these things but others do not and cannot commit the funds, not when there are more important things to pay for instead. Also why dont people have the balls to say these things to her face instead of all the backstabbing ??? And anyone can be Kent reginal organiser because as it state its for KENT and not KENTSCOOBIES Shame more time is not put into supporting the club , that way it would run better. Pele would accept all the help she can get but the offers are thin on the ground when it actually is asked for. Tony, i belive most members do know what Pele has put into the club & to be honest its a job well done in the past, we have been down this road before & it seems to me that this club now has to sort out these isues if it wants to survive. As for people with good earnings & being able to attend all meets & major events, well i dont know of anybody attending every event, the club has many members & it only needs a small amount of these to represent K Scoobies. Markie
Dalthegooner Posted September 23, 2007 Author Posted September 23, 2007 I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . . 1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. Shrek 4. eureka 5. VickyK 6. Markie Just correcting the list.
dunks Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . .1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. Shrek 4. eureka 5. VickyK 6. Markie 7. Dunks Just correcting the list.
scoots Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 As Steve has said we have been discussing this over the weekend and again this is no disrespect to Pele but I do feel that the structure of the club needs to change, I feel that we need to spread the responsibily between a few of the members, as we know Granby and Markie are fab at organising days out and Vicky has found her calling by doing Kent Modded . As Loony Toon said earlier about helping Pele and that help is thin on the ground,but when you do help i.e, with the organising of T Shirts, your idea's are poo pooded now where is the sense in that!? I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . . 1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. Shrek 4. eureka 5. VickyK 6. Markie 7. Dunks 8. Scoots n dogend
matthew_buckland Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 (edited) I am not and will not vote on this poll, what i will say is this club and name was formed by a number of people, from what i recall Arron and Hol was 2 of them, without these 3 there would not be a Kent Scoobies today, perhaps the others should have been consulted before this poll started, also a while back we also had an events organiser within Kent Scoobies, it may be an idea to elect one again, the running of a club needs help from members, thats what makes it a club. as per other no malice intended and not directed at anyone, just a point. Edited September 23, 2007 by Scuzz
eureka Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 There is a strong smell of bulls**t going on here, people are only interested in the club,dont take it as a witchhunt,it isnt. Can those that should be informed of this pole tell me if it is up to each member to supply goods for show purposes (merchandise etc ) out of ones pocket or should this be a matter for those which founded the club to arrange financial backing . There are certain members in this club that have gone out of their way to make a good and proffesional stand and impression to represent Kent Scoobies as only they deserve. I understand that i'm relativly new to this club but i fund my interest in the club out of my own pocket,other members may be happy with the recent image the club may give,i and i know others are not. All we want is a proper club with proper backing,we don't mind whom chairs the club just needs to be done properly,and the general feeling is that isn't happening.
spikey Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 (edited) Edited September 23, 2007 by Spikey
matthew_buckland Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Can those that should be informed of this pole tell me if it is up to each member to supply goods for show purposes (merchandise etc ) out of ones pocket or should this be a matter for those which founded the club to arrange financial backing . I guess this club cannot run the way people want without funds to do it and make the right impression, cards and banners etc cannot be made up if the money is not there to do it, a lot of the other clubs charge a nominal membership fee or an advanced members fee which is why they can have the flash stands and splat cards, from what i no this club recieves no funding from SIDC so perhaps we sould all put our hands in our pockets and fund the club properly. So how about some ideas of what people feel is a fair fee..
big jay Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Reading all the posts it seems everyone agrees that Pele had been doing a great job. However the club seems to be growing quickly and needs to move forward and maybe now it is time for the job to be shared among the members that are willing to help. A commitee may be a good idea so specific jobs can be delegated. Once again this is without disrespect to Pele. I believe its time for a new Regional Organiser. . . . . 1. Dalthegooner 2. Mickyw 3. Shrek 4. eureka 5. VickyK 6. Markie 7. Dunks 8. Scoots n dogend 9. Big Jay n wifey
vickyk Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 There is a strong smell of bulls**t going on here, people are only interested in the club,dont take it as a witchhunt,it isnt.Can those that should be informed of this pole tell me if it is up to each member to supply goods for show purposes (merchandise etc ) out of ones pocket or should this be a matter for those which founded the club to arrange financial backing . There are certain members in this club that have gone out of their way to make a good and proffesional stand and impression to represent Kent Scoobies as only they deserve. I understand that i'm relativly new to this club but i fund my interest in the club out of my own pocket,other members may be happy with the recent image the club may give,i and i know others are not. All we want is a proper club with proper backing,we don't mind whom chairs the club just needs to be done properly,and the general feeling is that isn't happening. Without Steves contribution to the stand it would not have looked no where near as good as it did, Steve went out of his way to source extra things for the stand and has had no financial help. But steve also went out and did something about sorting these products rather than just moaning about the lack of promotional items. Perhaps we should all take a leaf out of steve's book and do something about it, such as Big Jay following in securing a t-shirt supplier at a good price. at the end of the day there are certain members who are trying to help but we are not moving forward and actually getting anything done.
eureka Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 I guess this club cannot run the way people want without funds to do it and make the right impression, cards and banners etc cannot be made up if the money is not there to do it, a lot of the other clubs charge a nominal membership fee or an advanced members fee which is why they can have the flash stands and splat cards, from what i no this club recieves no funding from SIDC so perhaps we sould all put our hands in our pockets and fund the club properly. So how about some ideas of what people feel is a fair fee.. here here very well said
eureka Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 ok so we have all established we all need to take a role in the running of Kent Scoobies.I did club stand and am happy to carry on,Big Jay has merchandise,who is going to take on promoting the club i.e cards,flyers etc. Scoots and dogend are helping to source a new club gazebo Any more volunteers?
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