I know both these sites well, lol Theres a group buy in january for H&S exhausts on the other scooby fourm, thinking of the 4.5 " Jap style backbox from them anyone know what that would sound like? Il stick a wee pic up of my car shortly when i get home. Funny you should mention a yellow ignis theres one in one of the car parks at my work in grangemouth just now, guess its not you tho.