simon_mcwilliam Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 I want to remove my carbon cannister, I know that I have to move the one way valve to the pipe up beside the fuel filter, but do I just leave the out going nozzle of the valve open. Also do I just remove the hoses that go onto the cannister from the metal pipes that go under the inlet manifold & leave the metal pipes open.
RA Dunk Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 ok but WTF is a carbon cannister simmie? lets hope you get good weather to remove said cannister then
simon_mcwilliam Posted August 18, 2008 Author Posted August 18, 2008 It is a plastic cannister that traps fumes & sits just to the rear right of your drivers headlight
RA Dunk Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 hmmm i havent got the foggiest idea of what your on about
Guest Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 they are fitted to alot of cars some sort of requirement for the american market. Think it basically filters the fumes from from the atmosperic vent on your fuel tank. It gives you 40-50BHP if removed
kloon Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 they are fitted to alot of cars some sort of requirement for the american market. Think it basically filters the fumes from from the atmosperic vent on your fuel tank. It gives you 40-50BHP if removed Like Simmie needs another 40-50bhp Anyways I heard it was nearer 100
emoe Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 You can remove your carbon canister, but id advise not doing so!! It traps the excess vented fumes from both the fuel tank and the system itself. 1: in doing so you may cause the ECU to wibble and it wont like that! 2: youll be venting fumes *they are flammable still!* into atmosphere right where you get some heat! 3: a small spark or some sort of iginition source will ignite the fumes vapour and poof!! so my advice? You can do it as we dont have them on the race cars. The vents need to be blocked under the bonnet and their scources vented to atomsphere OUTSIDE the car. Its just for emissions reasons, so its not necessary. But i do have to ask WHY do you want to remove it? It will NOT EVER make any more power, and the weight saving is in the Grammes, so unless you competeing in the top classes this seems a pointless excersize costing money and making work.
WUZ Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) Simmie - message sent last night over on "the other site" m8. People (me included) have been running wothout the Carbon cannister for years with no issue. Pipe the 1-way valve down to underneath the Passenger wishbone area and you'll be fine. Some people who are a little worried will drill a 2mm hole unto the middle of their Fuel filler Cap (NOT WITH IT ON THE CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and this removes potential for excessive buildup of vapours but negates the use of the 1 way valve as theres never enough pressure buildup to force it open. It was for emissions control. But how many of us run Decat systems? Plus it means you can fit the Newage PS reservior in there! (might be his plan?) Russell Edited August 19, 2008 by WUZ
coulty Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 You can remove your carbon canister, but id advise not doing so!!It traps the excess vented fumes from both the fuel tank and the system itself. 1: in doing so you may cause the ECU to wibble and it wont like that! 2: youll be venting fumes *they are flammable still!* into atmosphere right where you get some heat! 3: a small spark or some sort of iginition source will ignite the fumes vapour and poof!! so my advice? You can do it as we dont have them on the race cars. The vents need to be blocked under the bonnet and their scources vented to atomsphere OUTSIDE the car. Its just for emissions reasons, so its not necessary. But i do have to ask WHY do you want to remove it? It will NOT EVER make any more power, and the weight saving is in the Grammes, so unless you competeing in the top classes this seems a pointless excersize costing money and making work. My god most of that is utter crap. 1. Nope ecu won't be affected 2. Nope they won't burn 3. Nope again It will not cost any money and i can assure you it won't cause any harm. I have been running without one for 5 years now with no issues.
emoe Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Simmie - I touch goats last night over on "the other site" m8.People (me included) have been running wothout the Carbon cannister for years with no issue. Pipe the 1-way valve down to underneath the Passenger wishbone area and you'll be fine. Some people who are a little worried will drill a 2mm hole unto the middle of their Fuel filler Cap (NOT WITH IT ON THE CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and this removes potential for excessive buildup of vapours but negates the use of the 1 way valve as theres never enough pressure buildup to force it open. It was for emissions control. But how many of us run Decat systems? Plus it means you can fit the Newage PS reservior in there! (might be his plan?) Russell Wuz, the way you have yours piped is a good idea and safe too. I agree there isnt normally a problem, but a lot of unknowledgeable people will just leave the pipes there which is a hazzard. Like you say, as long as the vent is out of the way then its fine. But i still stand on the fact that unless youre racing, or you need that space, then whats the point? De-catting the car makes for some extra power so is worth the time, but the canister wont make a drop of difference surely?
simon_mcwilliam Posted August 19, 2008 Author Posted August 19, 2008 Thanks for the replies folks, ps I am racing & do need the space. Cheers
RA Dunk Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Thanks for the replies folks, ps I am racing & do need the space. Cheers may i suggest you go on a diet as well to reduce weight (aye yer own!!)
emoe Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 may i suggest you go on a diet as well to reduce weight (aye yer own!!) OOOOOOOOOOOO
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