creationracing Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Stonehaven and District Motor Club are currently on the hunt for competitors for our 2006 events. As well as being involved with Autotesting, Sprinting/Hillclimbs and Navigational/Stage Rallying, we are making a special effort this year to boost entries for our Autocross/Clubcross events. These are open to virtually any driver/car combination, so whether you?re an old hand with a ex-works Rally Impreza tucked away in your garage, or a 17-year-old newcomer looking to try some competition with a standard road hatchback, this could be worth a look! Many top-level motorsport champions including former BTCC Vectra pilot John Cleland started out doing Autocross so who knows where it could lead?. For those of you new to the scene, Autocross and Clubcross is an off-road Speed formula, i.e. cars compete against the clock, leaving the line at staggered intervals, the winner being the driver to complete the required amount of laps in the quickest time. Events will generally be held on grass or stubble fields. And although there is the chance of cars meeting on the track, Autocross is a non-contact formula so no stock car antics please! Any type of car can be entered in Autocross events with minimal modifications. Fire extinguisher and mudflaps are mandatory, with a rollcage, harness and racing seat being recommended although not required. Classes will be divided according to engine size and transmission type. Most engine, suspension and bodywork modifications are unrestricted so modified road cars can be entered if you wish. Clubcross is similar although 4 wheel drive, forced induction and engines over 2000cc are usually prohibited, as are non-road legal tyres. Full technical regulations can be found in section G of the MSA Competitors handbook (which you will receive when you apply for a competition licence). So take any old road car, tear the interior out, fit a 1.75L handheld extinguisher and a set of cheap off-road tyres and you?re ready to do some Autocrossing! It?s common to drive to an event in the car you?re competing in but most will prefer to trailer their cars. You will also require a club membership and MSA Competition Licence (£15 and £33 per year). A flameproof suit and helmet are required but welder?s overalls and a bike helmet with correct BSI numbers will suffice. The provisional dates for the 2006 events are as follows. Venues and MSA Permit etc are TBC but if there is sufficient demand the events will go ahead. The first one is not until June so even if you?re preparing a car from scratch you will have plenty of time! Events will be counters in the SDMC Speed Championship, the SDMC Club Championship and the SDMC Fiesta Challenge. Recent events have been held at Netherley near Stonehaven, about ten miles south of Aberdeen but new venues are being considered. June 4th ? Clubcross August 6th ? Autocross September 3rd ? Autocross So if you think charging round a field sideways in your stripped out Scoob sounds like a good laugh, this is probably for you! For more information please send PM or email creationracing@hotmail.com
creationracing Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 Ruby the Scooby? Sorry mate no idea, was the only pic of an Impreza doing Autocross that Google could find, hope I dont get sued for using it!
colinj Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 LOL just a forum joke mate, rubythescooby is one of the female members on here. She would actually be very good competitor
creationracing Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 He he, good stuff mate! Well point her over here, as well as anyone else who might be up for giving their car some proper stick. We're not fussy, old/young, blokes/burds, Scoobys/Skodas, anyone is welcome to give it a crack! And for all those with huge rims and coilovers thinking "no f****ng way am I doing that with my car", theres always Sprints and Hillclimbs, similar idea, one car at a time against the clock but on a Tarmac surface, a bit gentler on the car... SDMC don't organise these but look at Aberdeen Motor Club's site www.admc.org.uk and you will get some info on there. Good way to keep the old licence safe as well, do all your fast driving at weekends where it's legal and you get trophies instead of penalty points!
sharon_mccall Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 << Sounds fun...is that rubythescooby in the pic >> LOL, looks bloody magic. I'd love to try this. If only................
zeolite Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Are you going to run your events this time? I took holidays to do your event last year only for you to cancel it because you only had 9 entries. I applaud you coming on the forum to plug the events and get some new blood but this lot are too much on the shiny car side for autocross. Indeed I reckon some folks spend more on polish and numberplates than I spend on autocrossing in a year. So do you have venues planned and can you tell me the clubcross rules as I don't think I am eligible.
creationracing Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 Zeolite, again I can only apologise about the cancelled events, we have been given 3 dates for 2006 and I'm on every forum from the ANECCC board to here shouting as loud as I can to drum up some support. This is the first year I've been involved in the promotion/organisation of such events and if it has anything to do with me we will have good healthy entry lists for all our events! I'll be nominating another clerk of the course on the day so I can compete as well, even letting another hooligan double-enter in my car to get the entry numbers up! Venues are TBC at the moment but will certainly not be a problem if there is demand for the events. Off the top of my head the minimum number required for an event to run is 12. Pretty sure this is dictated by either Insurance or the MSA Permit, so it's not a case of sour grapes by the club if an event is cancelled. Like I said I will be doing my best from now until then to make sure the events run, even looking into the possibility of hiring out ready to race vehicles to people who fancy a crack but dont have their own car. And I appreciate your promise of you and your partner entering if the event runs, just need some more people to follow your lead now! And like I say to people, you dont have to enter your pride and joy WRX, that old 1.2 Nova sitting unloved in your mates driveway will be just as much fun to tear to shreds round a field and a lot cheaper too! PS, does anyone know of any other local car/driving forums I can go begging on...?
creationracing Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 Oh, and the only Clubcross rules I can think of off the top of my head are the ones listed above. No forced induction, no 4WD, engines must be less than 2000cc (and I think no more than 2 valves/cylinder) and you must run on road legal tyres. Basically just seems like a slightly watered down Autocross for people who want to give it a crack in their road car... I shall consult the blue book later and give some more details. Roy
peter_reid Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 What are the costs for these events? I do 12 MTB races throughout the year and entry costs are crippling as it is. On the upside my mum has a nice and nippy little 1.6 Colt I may manage to steal. Weighs like a bag of feathers. Pete
creationracing Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 MTB? Excuse my ignorance but whats MTB? Costs are about as low as youre going to find in Motorsport. Entry fees are about £30 (I think but would be stated prior to an event) per time and thats about it to be honest. Of course a full tank and a spare jerrycan of gas will be required on top of that, along with diesel for your towing vehicle and costs for trailer hire (if youre towing your competition car), but you can find ways to cut costs. Speak to local garages and ask if they fancy towing your car to events in return for their name and phone number along the side of your car. Basically you spend as much as you want to. If you want to do it cheap and have good fun, run a standard rear drive Sierra on road tyres. Best thing is there will always be someone with similar equipment to you. But yeah, something like a Colt would be ideal for this. Get to work!
peter_reid Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 MTB Mountain bike Need to convince my Mum that I will look after it I'm interested anyway. Pete
st3ph3n Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 I might have to scout the papers for a cheap sierra
Gumball Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 you still need the rollcage and all the monkeys and parrots fitted for the hillclimbs and sprints?
creationracing Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 Good stuff Pete, if you want to get involved in motorsport the first thing you have to do is join a Motor Club, PM me your email and I will send you an SDMC membership application form. Its only £15 pounds a year (not £12 as i put earlier....) and it gives a regular news letter to keep you in touch with and will allow you to enter events. From there you need to apply for an MSA competition licence, download the form from www.msauk.org , you wil need the "Speed Non-Race National B" licence, this will allow you to enter virtually anything in the UK apart from circuit racing and stage rallying. From there on it's basically a case of getting a car ready and entering an event! I forgot to add that more than one person can enter in a car in a Speed event like Autocross, so if you want to share costs with a mate thats fine. And while im writing I'll also mention the SDMC Fiesta Challenge, it's a one-make championship open to Ford Fiestas with engine size restricted to 1100cc and with limited modifcations to keep costs down. Its held over 6 events per year, 3 Autotests, 2 Autocross and one Clubcross and, like all the championships, the winner gets a nice big shiny trophy at the end of the year. If anyone is interested I will email technical regulations, PM me your addresses. Gumball, it depends what class you wish to enter in. There is a class for Road Cars which means you can run in a standard car with no cage etc but if you wish to enter some of the higher classes you will need extra safety equipment. Parrots are strictly prohibited as they flap around too much in the car and Monkeys are only permitted if they are wearing full flameproofs, helmets and held in by at least a 3 point harness....
peter_reid Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 You need to switch your PM.s on mate. Spoke to My mum and she was getting rid of the car but is giving it to me instead Wouldn't want to drive it all the time but OMG it can shift for a 1.6. Pete
creationracing Posted January 10, 2006 Author Posted January 10, 2006 Oops, sorry Pete, didnt know I had to activate my PMs! Done! Good news mate, you have yourself a competition car in the making! Get that angle grinder and pry bar out and get rid of all that nasty interior!
Gumball Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 << Parrots are strictly prohibited as they flap around too much in the car and Monkeys are only permitted if they are wearing full flameproofs, helmets and held in by at least a 3 point harness >> quality, lol it was more a metaphore for "bits and bobs" and standard as in no mods at all?
creationracing Posted January 11, 2006 Author Posted January 11, 2006 Gumball, my apologies, have consulted my little rule book and it would appear that you need at least a rear cage even to run in the Roadgoing Production Car class. Seats and belts can stay standard. Air filter and exhaust can be changed. Wheels can be changed but suspension must remain standard. Transmission must be as standard. Any more modifications to your car and you will be in the Modified Production Car class. Here you can tune the tits off your engine as much as you like (as long as you keep the block standard and in the same position), same with the transmission. Suspension components can be changed but must retain the original layout. 4 point harness is mandatory but original seat can be kept. Fire extinguisher recommended but not required. Hope this helps mate! Roy
Gumball Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 modified production car sounds like a hoot, even to lose would still be an experience i have a fire extinguisher but no cage yet
creationracing Posted January 11, 2006 Author Posted January 11, 2006 << i have a fire extinguisher but no cage yet >> www.tescoloans.com
peter_reid Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 I'm definately up for it. Only just down the road from me. Got the car (Ta Mum) MTB racing gets too serious with sponsors NEED some fun
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