andy Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Reply typed and then copied and pasted elsewhere for review when not under the influence of falling-down juice prior to posting.
zeolite Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 << Reply typed and then copied and pasted elsewhere for review when not under the influence of falling-down juice prior to posting. >> How incredibly sensible andywrx Could do with more like you
andrew_duff Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 I dont think any of the posts are negative in comment, more realistic in my opinion. Wake up and smell the coffee people to much chit chat about what we should and shouldn't attend , what we should and should't expect of the club , what we should or shouldn't expect of the R.o 's and committe . What the club needs is a kick up the arse and start doing what the members want without any criticism from forum members who dont go to the events. dont support the R.O 's and dont support the club. Andy ........SLF could be making a comeback ......if i can be bothered.
billyboy Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 Flyers are also on the menu for Thursdays meet. Calm down people Oh yeh and so are "cleeks" again. Billy
andy Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 << How incredibly sensible andywrx Could do with more like you >> First time I've ever done that on ANY website! Usually I just type my drunken bollocks and then next day think "Oh ****. Did I really say that?" However, I do think this is kinda important and wanted to get my response right. Before I start, I've not been to meets (yet!) - my first will be Gumball's photo run (who I admire for organising it, sticking with it and putting a lot of effort into making it happen. It just goes to show what can be done with a bit of effort), but I am a paid-up member so feel I'm entitled to my say. I agree with a lot of what's been said in this thread - particularly some of the points made by st3ph3n. However, I do a lot of website stuff and have a fair bit of experience in the area and, in my opinion, all the flyers in the world are not going to encourage new members to this site as it stands. The URL www.scottishscoobies.co.uk takes you to this forum. As we all know, this forum has a lot of great content and banter, but - apart from the fact it's not a link to something that tells you anything about the Scottish Subaru Community, these forums are unreliable to say the least. It can often take several minutes for the homepage to load and regularly returns SQL errors. That's fine for those of us who are used to it and expect it, but stats show your average internet user will not wait more than 30 seconds for a page to load. They'll move on. That discourages newcomers who won't even give the site a chance because it takes too long to load. Even those who do stick around are going to see people chatting who know each other (whether just online or in real life) and will find it difficult just to dive in. In my opinion, www.scottishscoobies.co.uk should not point to a poorly performing forum, but to a well-presented site with links to a forum that performs properly. Without that, I feel flyers would be a wasted effort. I totally appreciate that the guys behind the scenes on this site have real-life jobs and this is secondary, but a re-vamp has been promised since the day I first posted which was heading on for a year ago. Put up or shut up? Sure. Say the word and I'm onto it. My two main websites are now off-season so I've a couple of months free. Will work for Optimax - or free if Optimax isn't available
st3ph3n Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 The club will live and die by its members, and with the exception of the most minor of minorities they're all thoroughly sound people. But if you don't promote the club to both new and existing members then people will leave. To this end I also volunteer my services in any way I can. I'm not the greatest web designer in the world, but I am an excellent code monkey.
phil Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 Hi Guys Sorry I didn't spot this one We have just received back from the printers 4,000 National Club Flyers A6 Size Also 4000 A4 Membership Form/flyers I am sending packages up to Billyboy for distribution It has been suggested that on one side where currently we have address and basic info we could add regional info So decide between yourselves what info needs to be on these cards and get them sent to me I will arrange prompt printing As for the Website www.scottishscoobies.com can point to a home page if you wish . BUT DEREK NEEDS CONTENT National Day - I have spent 2 weeks of my personal holiday allowance this year visiting possible venues and trying to negiotiate a rate that would be commercially viable to the club. !!!!!!!! We are currently speaking to one venue that WANTS us so fingers crossed for the next few weeks
ScoobyAndy Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 Good to hear these things Phil. Its about time we got some new ones. Looking forward to hearing more about the NBO in the near future too. Andy
andy Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 << As for the Website www.scottishscoobies.com can point to a home page if you wish . BUT DEREK NEEDS CONTENT >> Okay - Whilst we have some momentum on this front, let me throw a couple of ideas into the pot... 1) www.scottishscoobies.co.uk points to a site with information relevant to the scene in Scotland rather than just to this forum. That site uses a Content Management System to allow RO's (and anyone else authorised to do so) to post news simply by filling in a web form. No knowledge of HTML or web design required! Fill in an online form, click submit, job done. 2) It contains an explanation of what the whole Scoob scene in Scotland is about - including a gallery of photos from events which users can upload their own photos to in order to further show what it is SIDC members in Scotland get up to. Neither of the above would be particularly hard to set up. Couple of weekends work - if that. My idea is that NOTHING would detract from the fact that the Scottish scene is very much part of the SIDC and the SIDC would be heavily emphasised, but a little bit of individuality and more detail on us Jocks. This is, of course, only my opinion and I'm totally open to being told it's bollocks and things are fine as they are or to any other suggestions, but in my experience I think it could be an awful lot better than it currently is and give newcomers something that would make them want to be part of the community. I've got a website I use for test & development and am quite happy to put something up there for review/approval. The one thing I'm not good at is graphics - the only thing I'll ever draw is my pension! If there was somebody willing to help out on the photoshop front it would make things easier.
dougster Posted November 10, 2005 Author Posted November 10, 2005 Andy I think you need to speak to Willie Fairhurst and Cameron Leask who have been working on new software for the whole of SIDC. I have no idea of the content or layout intended.
phil Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 Derek can add pages to main website with whatever content With respect we have to limit the number of people editing the website
andy Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 << With respect we have to limit the number of people editing the website >> I think you need to see what I have in mind. I have a site that allows Club representatives to post their own news as and when they want, but I have overall editorial control and can delete/edit articles as I deem appropriate. The upside is they can post their own news which means a lot more content to my site, regularly updated with zero effort on my part. I occasionally edit articles to correct blatant typos, but have never had to delete anything. They're keen and take it seriously. It's a totally new mindset compared to the old way of only a webmaster or him and a few others updating a site, but it really does work. I get 10-15 new articles on a Sunday/Monday after weekend events and I don't even have to get off my lazy ass. It just happens.
phil Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 Once the IT guys have implemented the new forum software perhaps they could discuss this with you
zeolite Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 Andy. It sounds like a great idea. Phil. Do we have any timescale for the new software? I ask because it is such a big issue and everything else is being stacked up behind it. At the EDN/ West Lothian meet last night there were some very good ideas popping up and it would be good to keep the momentum going. I know it is a huge undertaking and it is taking more time than expected. it would be good for the rest of the membership to see some light. Good news about he flyers BTW!
andy Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 << Once the IT guys have implemented the new forum software perhaps they could discuss this with you >> I'm not sensing the vibes of enthusiasm here that I'd expect from the SIDC Chairman to look at something to move things onwards and upwards. If I'm wasting my time, say so and I'll drop it totally.
phil Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 No Vibes from me Cameron and Willie have spent a lot of time and effort working on the new stuff !! Once thats implemented I am sure they will be more than grateful for any assistance Drop them an email
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